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I'm trying to figure out which parts I need for the horn of my 1926 Chev Superior Touring that I'm working on. This car had been disassembled by a previous owner without anything labeled and putting it together is like solving a difficult jig saw puzzle. Pictured below are some parts I think may belong to the horn. I've labeled them with letters. I've also included a picture of the finished steering wheel. Which parts really belong to a 1926 and what is missing? What do the missing parts look like? Any help would be much appreciated.
Arend

I have a related question. What horn number was used on your car? was it a Klaxon #7 or an 8 something. Does it mount through the firewall with the motor part under the dash or down on the frame? As far as your question goes, I would look closely at a 26 parts book and hopefully it will have pictures of the horn parts. Later books may not show parts from your year. A parts book from the year you are working on would be a very valuable item to have for piecing a basket case back together. Not sure about this but I bet the part labled "G" is from something else.

Bob; IT used a Klaxon 8C that was mounted on top of the exhaust manifold.

I didn't get a horn with the car or a horn bracket. I have a copy of the Parts List for Superior Model "K" but the page (30) is not very clear. Most of the pictures and numbers for the horn parts are not legible. Does someone have a better copy?

Arend - Try this.................

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Roger

Arend post your email address and I'll send you a picture of the parts book page and I also took my horn button of today and will send you a picture of the horn parts off my '26 Chevy.

Thanks to IMFALCO and SSG26K for providing me with pictures. I think most of the parts I have are not the right ones. I do have one more question. Are the horn parts for Model K's the same as Model V. My car is a model V. I thought the K's were 1925 and Model V's were 1926.

Arend - If you talking about horn button parts, I believe the 1925-26s were the same, but the horns themselves were not. Some early '25 horns were mounted into the firewall, while late Ks and all Vs were mounted on a bracket bolted to the exhaust manifold. As far as 1926 having both Ks and Vs, this has been a much debated subject with no definitive answer to date. If your car is a V, then it is a 1926, but some Ks built late in 1925 were sold and perhaps titled as 1926 models.

It's kind of like buying a 1999 Tahoe in June of 1998. It is still a 1999.

Roger

I thought the Model K's had the gas and spark levers on the steering wheel. Mine has them down below by the dash. This would make the horn button parts different wouldn't it?

Arend as of Auguest 1925 (late'K')the throttle and spark levers were mounted at the dash just above the steering column. And stayed there until around August of 1926. The late model 'V' /early '27's put them back up to the steering wheel.

The horn parts parts you have shown are for late 26 to 28 although some parts are missing, there's also shown an aftermarket fuel cap.
The parts that you need are aluminium and are the same as used on a 25
The horn that mounts through the firewall finished in 25, the 26 as previously stated was mounted above the rocker cover on a vertical bracket that was secured under the two bolts that hold your exhaust manifold on
Chris

Arend - Sounds like you have an Early V and the horn differences would only be applied to the late V models. You should also have the belt driven generator and the round tail light without the stop light.

Have you given us your model number, body number? Decribe your headlight bar. Any pictures to share?

Roger

I have limited knowledge of 25 - 26 vehicles but what I think I'm seeing in your picture, starting in the upper left corner and continuing clockwise, is:
-The remaines of a cowl light wiring/terminal.
-A horn button spring.
-A tapered spring used to load the wiring/terminal in the cowl light.
-The lower portion of the Steering wheel throttle/spark control (stationary portion) with the center tube missing. This system was used on the '26 series V and '27 and '28 vehicles.
-A black rubber cover (with bowtie) used on later than '28 models as a starter switch cover.
-A horn button, Vintage unknown. Dosen't appear to be '27 or '28.
-Small cylinder shaped spring, usage unknown.

The steering wheel assembly appears to be 1928. !927, and I believe 1926, had more offset in the spoke sections.

Oldie,
I agree with all except for the steering wheel. Don't see the screw holes to attach the cover that holds the horn button on the later '27 & '28. So would say it is '26 - early '27. I have been wrong before and could be this time too.

Thanks to all those who offered advice. It's much appreciated. The tags on the car give the following information:
One reads: Model: Superior-K, Car Number 6V 13861'
The other is very rusty but I can read: Canada; Superior V125921, 2571846
Last winter I worked on the body, putting in new wood and cutting out rust and welding in new patches, and respoking the wheels, and doing the steering wheel. Now I'm in the process of woring on the power train and chassis. I've rebushed everything that was loose, had the cluch resurfaced, checked over the tranny, and fixed the differential. It came with a '28 motor which I hope to have running before too long.

Chipper,

The horn button cover doesn't attach to the steering wheel on '27 and '28. It attaches to the throttle/spark control stationary mounting which I listed as missing its tube. Look at item number four in my listing which is the larger circular piece in the original picture. That item has the mounting holes for the horn cover that you speak of. The spark/throttle controls and the horn button remain stationaly as the steering wheel is turned on the '27 and '28 vehicles and according to the parts book, the V series '26 is the same configuration as well.

Dick

Is there some type of "gasket" or filler paper that goes between the spark and throttle levers? When I took mine apart there was a few little bits and pieces but not enought there to really see what it was. Didn't know if there was some type of friction paper or something to hold help hold the lever where you put it?

Also, on 28 the steering wheel spokes are dark brown, correct? Is there an accepted dark brown to use or is it just any dark brown?
And the wood is just clear?

Thanks

Arend the top ID tag is the one from the side of your front seat. The 6V13861 shows that the car was built at the Oakland Plant. It's a series 'V' and 13861 is the sequence number of the car coming off the assembly line. U.S. plants started their sequence numbers with 1001. In Canada "Superior model 'V' commenced with serial No. 100001." As per my 1926 Model 'V' parts book. I don't recognize the other tag. Where was that located?

David,

Yes, there was a gasket type material between the spark and throttle control surfaces. I've replaced mine using a Velamoid (sp) gasket material.

Yes, the spoke sections on the '28 steering wheels should be brown. The '28 Salesman's desk reference book confirms that as well. Now the shade of brown is questionable and hard to describe in verbage. Looking at a couple of originals that I have, I'd say they are simular in color to the color of a Hershey bar.

The first tag was located below the driver's seat and the second tag was located on the passenger side below the seat next to the door.

Here is a picture of the car before I started working on it. I've indicated where the tags were.

Arend if the Canadian tag was on the passenger side then that might be the original tag. You may have a Canadian built car. I have a 1926 model 'V' Canadian parts manual. It's only 20 pages. I can make a copy of it and send it to you if you would like it. I made a copy of it a few years ago and sent it to someone from Canada. It's free. Postage isn't even worth talking about. Let me know if it will help. It looks like you have a lot of work to do to get it back in shape.Send me a PM. Good luck.

Re the colour of steering wheels, I have one that was covered by leather from new and where the stitching has parted you can see the colour well. I can post a photo if you wish. The colour is nearly black and I reckon that it is a stain rather than paint. Also on my very original unrestored 28 2 door sedan you can see the same colour still around near the spokes where the drivers hands haven't worn it of
Chris

The above was taken from a SALES DATA book effective 1-28 under Specifications.

Anyone: what do you interpret that line to say? Does it mean the wooden rim, or the spokes, or both? How about the rubber grips? black or brown rubber.

Any answer to this posting, begs the poster to provide a reference.