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Can you believe it? I received the following information from a friend of mine outside of the VCCA.
----BEGIN------- JUST IN TIME FOR X MAS. If you didn't believe that GM was in trouble, the fact that they are selling off much of the Heritage Collection (600 vehicles that are rotated in display)to raise cash is certainly some proof. One has to wonder how the Barrett Jackson aution this January will do compared with the past few years.
From Scott Settlemire of GM:
Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades, Firebird Friends, and Corvette Cousins............
As you may know, the GM Heritage Collection numbers in the many hundreds of cars and trucks - from 'first builts' and 'last builts' to one-off show cars to SEMA show cars.
The Decision has been made to sell off select vehicles. (Indeed, a sad day for some of us......)
There's a little of everything -- from the Legendary Buick Blackhawk -- to (are you sitting down?) a COUPLE of 1989 Corvette ZR1s -- the Jon Moss built Track-dominating Black 572 ZL1 -- A C5 Alpha and a C5 Beta -- The Tiger Shark -- the LT5 Camaro -- a 1904 Olds Touring -- several GTOS -- both old and new -- a couple of 1970 muscle cars -- a mid nineties "510" Impala SS -- and many, many pace cars and trucks.
This may be the time to break open the piggy bank.................
PLEASE NOTE: This is a preliminary list -- it is very likely subject to change - Barrett-Jackson will, in the coming week or two, put out pictures of each of these cars on their website.
This is the Scottsdale, AZ auction -- January 13-19, 2009.
Please feel free to share with your club members and friends.
Model 1955 Buick Century Bolero 2001 Blackhawk G6 Rolex Pace 2007 Corvette Indy Pace/copper 2008 Corvette Indy Pace/black 1918 Cadillac 1995 Riveria Convertible 1993 Allante Pace car 1996 Presidential Limo 1998 Popemobile 1999 Eldorod Indy Pennzoil IRL #4 (yellow) Indy Pennzoil Panther Racing (yellow) 2003 EXT - M 2004 CTS Super V 2004 SRX Hot Wheels 2004 SRX SEMA 2005 STS MCE Integration 2006 DTS Appearance Pkg 2007 Escalade Limo 2007 Escalade SEMA 2008 CTS Sport LMP #8 1925 Chevrolet House Car (Blue/Black) 1948 Chevy I-5 Vortech 1960 Impala 1972 Impala 2004 M/C Rock&Roll Pace (blue/yellow) 1987 Chevrolet Sprint Turbo Convertible 1989 Corvette DR-1 1989 Corvette Snake Skinner 1989 Corvette Splash 1989 Corvette ZR-1 1989 Corvette ZR-1 (Dark Red) 1989 Corvette ZR-2 Big Doggie 1989 Tracker Boom Box 1989 Zonker 1990 Corvette Right Hand Steer 1990 Corvette ZR-1 Active 1991 Caprice Classic 1991 Corvette Convertible 1991 Syclone PPG Pace 1991 Tracker Dirt 1992 Corvette ZR-1 First Built (Red) 1992 Impala SS 510 1993 Camaro ZL-1 "572" 1993 Corvette LT-1 Spyder 1993 Typhoon 1994 Corvette (Teal) 1994 Impala SS 6 Speed 1994 Impala Wagon 1994 Tracker Kalahari 1995 Monte Carlo Led Sled 1995 Monte Carlo Pro Street 1996 Camaro Brickyard Pace 1997 Corvette Alpha Build 1997 Corvette Beta Build 1997 Corvette Tiger Shark 2005 M/C Rock&Roll Pace (red) 1997 Monte Carlo Intimidator 1998 Camaro Drag 1998 Corvette First Built 1998 Corvette X-plorers 1999 Corvette C5R Show Car 1999 Corvette Shark 1999 Silverado Tonka 2000 Corvette Z06 Race 2000 Monte Carlo Brickyard #3 2000 Tahoe K5 2001 Impala Low Rider 2001 Monte Carlo Drag Silverado #17 GMAC Racetruck 2001 Silverado Intimidator SS (Black) 2006 Silverado Craftsman Pace Flex Fuel #2 2002 Camaro Police 2002 Cavalier 425 A/FX Drag 2002 Monte Carlo Looney Tunes Pace 2002 S-10 Little Red 2003 Aveo Xtreme 2003 Corvette Lemans Pace #3 2003 Monte Carlo Rock & Roll Race 2004 Aveo X-treme 2004 Colorado SS Dark Cherry 2004 Colorado Xtreme 2004 Colorado Z-71 Vision 2004 Corvette Indy Pace 2004 Impala SS Project Vehicle 2004 Malibu Maxx SS 2004 Malibu Xtreme 2004 2004 Monte Carlo Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2004 Monte Carlo Tony Stewart 2004 Silverado Speedway Solstice "Jazz" Transformer Movie Vehicle 1969 Reggie Jackson Camaro (red) 1990 Beretta Indy Pace 2004 Escalade Pinnacle (black) Holden Race Car #22 (red) 2000 STS Saftey 2007 Yukon "CSI Vegas" (used in filming of show) 2003 Rendezvous CXL 1998 Rivera (teal) 2005 Colorado CC Z71 2005 Corvette Atlantic 2005 Corvette Pacific 2005 Equinox Xtreme 2004 Suburban Quadsteer 2006 HHR Official Tailgate Crew 2006 HHR Open Air 2006 HHR Panel 2006 HHR Panel Tuner 2006 HHR Xplorer Scout 2006 HHR Yearone 1995 Aurora (red) 2007 Avalanche Z-71 Plus 2007 Corvette Z06 First Built (Red) 2007 HHR SS Panel Motor City (Flat Gray) 2007 Silverado "Big Red" 2007 Silverado CC Rally Sport 2007 Silverado Country Music 2007 Silverado E85 Handy Man 1985 Calais "MSU" 2007 Silverado OCC 2007 Silverado Roadside 2007 SilveradoZ71 Orange 2007 Suburban HD Diesel 2007 Suburban Major League Baseball (Blue) 2007 Tahoe Foose 2007 Tahoe US Ski Team Camaro Trans Am 2 seater C/K 1500 Supertruck Chevy 2 Seat Camaro GTZ Camaro LT5 Corvette C5 Display Chassis Corvette Purple Smash Corvette Racing Boat Corvette Trailer Corvette ZR1 Rolling Chassis HHR Floral Holden Race Car (Red) Kappa Chassis S-10 Drag S-10 Off Road Truck S-10 Race Truck (Red) S-10 Stadium Truck 2003 Centieme Concept 1916 GMC Stake Truck 1917 GMC Trailer 1948 GMC Firetruck 1978 GMC Suburban (Brown/Cream) 2003 Rollback 2004 Canyon Kayak 2004 Envoy Race Truck 2004 Envoy Water Sports 2007 Sierra All Terrain Crew 2007 Sierra HD Denali Caprice "Fire & Rescue" 2007 Sierra Texas Edition 2007 Yukon Denali Jay-Z (Blue) 2007 Yukon XL Big Max 2007 Yukon All Terrain 2003 Hummer Spring Special 2005 Hummer Dirt Sport 2005 Hummer H2 Slant Back 2006 H3 street 2006 HHR Spring Special (Cappucino Frost) 2007 H2 Safari 2008 H3R SEMA 1994 Corvette HO Corvette ZR 1 Snake Skinner 1904 Olds Touring Runabout 1923 Olds 1931 Olds Chassis 1940 Olds Blue 1949 Olds (Green) 1954 Olds Ninety Eight 1960 Olds 88 (White) 1970 Cutlass SX 1970 Olds 442 W30 1977 Olds Delta 88 Indy Pace 1995 Cutlass Darth Vadar 1995 Cutlass Mobil Net Race 1998 Intrigue 1998 (Blue) 1999 Intrigue 442 1999 Silhouette OSV #2 2001 Bravada Indy Pace 2002 Intrigue Last 2002 Aurora Exxon Race GTS (Gold/White) Aurora IRL Race Car Cut-Away #5 Aurora IRL Race Car Cut-Away #5 1985 Peugeot 205 Turbo (Gray) 1985 Peugeot 205 Turbo Active (Gray) 1926 Pontiac 1926 Pontiac (Gray/Black) 1968 Pontiac Cataline (White) 1969 Pontiac GTO (Green) 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge (Orange/Yellow) 1980 Pontiac Grand Am Pickup 1994 Firebird Lingenfelter 383 1999 Grand Am SCT 2003 Sunfire X-plores (Yellow) 2006 Solstice DTP (Orange) 1967 GTO XXX Hardtop 1984 Fiero GT 2+2 1986 Firebird Trans Am Kamback 1987 Fiero GT Convertible 1991 Firebird Trans Am Twin Turbo 1993 Firebird IMSA Race car 1994 Firebird Firmula V8 1994 Firebird Trans Am 25th Ann. 1998 Firebird Trans Am Gold Rush 1998 Firebird Trans Am X-plorers 1998 Grand Prix M&M Pace 2000 Bonneville Salt Flats 2000 Firebird Rytek Project 2000 Firebird Trans Am Darth Vader CTS-VR Race Replica (black) 2001 Aztek First Built (Black) 2001 Aztek Pace #1 (Red) 2001 Aztek SRV 2002 Firebird Trans Am Daytona Pace #2 2003 Grand AM Autocross 2003 Vibe Autocross Sema 2003 Vibe FX 2004 Grand Prix GXP SEMA 2004 GTO 1st built 2005 Firedbird Trans Am Collectors Ed. 2005 GTO SEMA 2006 Solstice Red Bull Drifter 2006 Solstice Weekend Racer Fiero Goodwrench Race Grand Am #85 race car Grand Prix (show car) GTO Drag Performance Parts Firebird Mobil Race Car 1991 Saturn 4 Door 1991 (White) 1995 Saturn 1 Millionth 1999 Saturn 2 Millionth 2004 Ion Red Line 2004 Ion Red Line 2004 Ion Red Line 2004 Saturn Vue Spring Special 2004 Vue Red Line Street Play Saturn Lola Race Car 1999 Grand Prix GT (red) Regal Cielo Open Air 2001 Regal GNX 2002 Rendezvous Inca Trail (grey) 2002 Rendezvous Tour Edition SC GTP Ultrlite (teal) 900 Pikes Peak Malibu Friday Night Cruiser
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Bill Barker Previous VCCA CHAT Administrator (VCCA Member: 9802)
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That's sad ! even sader if they sell some of the cars that were donated or sold to them to preserve them for the memory of long standing members in the various GM family's
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About 25% of them are scheduled to be sold at the Barrett-Jackson auction next week in Scottsdale. If you want to see them, the Speed Channel covers this event. The auction starts on Tuesday, Jan 13.
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Will the proceeds go to pay CEO`s bonus`s???
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Don't forget some of this money will go to pay their labor costs which run 25 - 40% more than foreign auto plants in the southern states. This so they can continue to try to sell cars that are higher priced and lower quality than their foreign competitors.
We are going to the Barrett-Jackson auction next week so we'll get one last chance to see these cars.
David
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"Only" 200 cars are offered this time out of 1000.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Money/Story/STIStory_323325.html
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According to GM they are only auctioning "slightly less important cars from the collection....anything they can semi-easily buy another one of when (if) times get better."
However, GM also states they may have to sell some of the more precious ones, such as completely irreplaceable and one-off concept cars, which would bring much more money if times get tighter. When they first announced they were going to sell, it was only going to be 50 cars. As of today it is almost 250 but Barrett-Jackson has sold out its auction spaces for the Scottsdale event. On the other hand, Barrett-Jackson does have people who withdraw cars at the last minute, and often add new cars after the sale has started so we shall see. Also, their Palm Beach auction is not too far off. This tale is not over.
GM having said this, however, it is known by insiders in Scottsdale that many of the Heritage cars at Barrett-Jackson will have been modified with rare and/or experimental powertrain components to improve performance and driveability; and several bidders have hired a retired GM expert in high performance (Mark McPhail) as a consultant to help them identify these cars.
Some say this is just a publicity stunt by GM to convince the American people how much GM needs more government tax money as the money from this sale is just a drop to a company that is burning $1 billion in cash a month! Only time will tell about this theory as Barrett-Jackson's Palm Beach sale will come right about the time the Barack Hussein Obama administration and Congress are supposed to give more bailouts to GM and the UAW!!
Personally, I am going to wait to place my bids until Ford has to sell off The Henry Ford Museum at Greenfield Village. They have a much nicer collection of classic cars (not just Ford).
David
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I attended Barrett-Jackson today and there were about 225 GM "Heritage Museum" cars. Most of them were late model cars that had been modified with test equipment and run on test tracks. Most were not street legal and are being sold with "scrap" titles or "bill of sale only". Based on the sales I saw, they are not drawing much money. However, the first day is for cars that do not draw much money.
They did have some true "classic cars" but they are being sold as being museum cars which may or may not run or be whole (perhaps no pistons, or transmission gears) in areas that one can not see. I noticed a couple of 50's Olds were sold to a museum.
The Speed Channel people claim this is not a sale to raise money due to GM's financial problems, but simply a routine "culling of the herd" that all museums do on a periodic basis. 25% of the herd is quite a culling.
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so far the autos offered from the collection would for the most part be classified as unremarkable. of course the rarer cars will be sold later in the auction. considering GMs financial woes it's very unlikely the funds garnered from this event will have any significant impact on their bottom line.
my self, I enjoy seeing a 4 door, 1954 Oldsmobile as I do a 1 of 1 Corvette
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The bottom line is not what the gurus in GM and Congress are interested in anyway, they are interested in what publicity is reveled in the mainstream U.S. media. What effect do you really think one trip of driving to Washington D.C. in new hybrid cars Vs. flying in a private jet really had anyway? It is all childish games! They use the B-word and the T-word like crazy. It's OBSCENE!!!! Someone blow the whistle and throw the yellow flag! ![[Linked Image from pic1.picturetrail.com]](http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1180/4341552/19685581/350657273.jpg)
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It is very common for museums to sell off inventory, the money that this is generating for GM is "lunch money" in the big picture. This defrays some of the operating cost of the collection, and creates more captial to aquire other pieces that might be of more interest. I would not read that deep into it. I heard several years ago from people at Chevrolet Creative Service's when GM was aquiring the collection that they were planing on liquidating a large portion of it after the 100th Aniversarry. I was surprised that the one of the cars sold on Tuesday (Black 60 Impala Flat top) that was part of the Heritage Collection my best friend did the interior when my other friend owned it. The dealer emblem on the trunk "RUPP" and the clear plastic covers gave it away. It was pretty cool and it was a real nice car when my friend (and fellow VCCA member) owned it John
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Creig Jackson has announced that they will be selling more of the GM Heritage cars at upcoming Palm Beach auction. He said they are still working with GM on how many but could be equal to the Scottsdale auction. That would mean another 200-250 cars. If that happens they will have sold off 1/2 of their holdings. That would seem to be more than a culling.
We shall see!!
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Why are you so concerned about what they do with their cars?
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I am not concerned. I am just reporting information to this thread. I thought that was what we did on a forum.
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That would mean another 200-250 cars. If that happens they will have sold off 1/2 of their holdings. That would seem to be more than a culling.
Let me clarify myself, you are the one who reported some old news and the above comment just made it seem like you were concerned.
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I did not realize it was old news that Barrett-Jackson was going to sell more of them at the Palm Beach auction(I only see mentions of the Scottsdale auction in previous posts). Also, Jackson announced it today on the Speed Channel, but if it is old news to you, simply ignore it. Life's too short to get upset by old news.
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I was far from upset reading your posts, as a matter of fact I found it entertaining. The old news was that GM was liqudating the collection, you are correct the Palm Beach information was a recent addition to the story.
John
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