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What color stripe was used on the early '32 cars (a cream, maybe????) that had the darker brown fenders (paint code #95, Bangor Beige and Haverhill Brown) before the fenders went to the color black later in the production year? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Did the stripe color match the wheel color? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Gator;
#95 shows Cream Medium stripe with Cream Medium wheels. Upper-Haverhill Brown, Lower-Bangor Beige, Door Inserts-Medium Brown Capucino.
Dupont Chevrolet Color Bulletin No. 4, December 1931.
DeLuxe Convertible Cabriolet, and Deluxe Convertible Landau Phaeton.

No mention of the fenders being brown. The only #'s to show other than black on the fenders were #'s 117, 118, 119 and they were the "Pearl Essence" colors and they were only Special Sedans, Dlx Sport Coupe, and Dlx Five Passenger Coupe. Fender colors are #117 Bordeaux Maroon, #118 Cannon Smoke, and # 119 Dagestan Blue.

"Fenders painted a contrasting hue" were used early in the year on a few models. Among them (not always) were the cabriolet and the roadster. The other models had black fenders except for color combinations 117, 118 and 119. After May, the roadster and the cabrilolet had black fenders.

Bangor Beige and Haverhill brown with brown fenders looks very unattractive. Too much brown with no contrast. That particular color combination used with black fenders is awesome and rich looking however!

Even with the contrasting color fenders only the tops were painted that way. The bottoms were still black. In addition to the '32s certain Deluxe 1931 models also had contrasting color fenders, splash aprons, gas tank cover and radiator splash shield. They sure would look goofy with colored fenders and the other chassis sheet metal black.

Hi all; my '32 sport cpe. paint code # 99 has blue(pear essence) main body black top and fenders,med. cream wheels and stripes.

Paint code number 99 is Manganese Blue with black top, black fenders and Cream Medium wire wheels. The striping colors are Cream Medium and Lorraine Blue on the body and Gold Bronze on the fenders.

The only pearl essence colors were paint code numbers 117, 118 and 119.

In 1934 fenders were black enamel for most combinations, lacquered to match body color optional......was this also the same for 1932??

Yup, just overpainted on the top side either by the factory or possibly the dealer.

Chipper, I must be having a brain cramp so can you explain to me what you meant with:

"Even with the contrasting color fenders only the tops were painted that way. The bottoms were still black."

I have a '32, cabriolet with an early Dec. '31 build date.

I have seen some pics of the 95 code with the brown fenders. I really want the car to be original in every way it was when sold in '32, so changing the color of the fenders to black would sort of feel wrong to me.

I have been told (on Chatter) that Chevy switched to black fenders for the cabriolet in May of '32.

Easy to change cowl tags, hard to change build dates... :eek: Who knows maybe the VCCA will start requiring people to make their cars match the cowl tags and dates one day.

Hi
Cream medium, 244-6596 is like -74 Toyota T-528, yellow ACME 91781, R-M 4602/TO 224,Finn

Gator: You are getting yourself confused regarding the fender colors on the cabriolet. Prior to May of 1932, on color code number 95, not all cabriolets had brown fenders. They came both ways, black or brown. After May of 1932 all fenders on the cabriolet were black. You can paint your fenders black (with paint number 95 your car will look a lot better that way) and your car will be correct.

"Even with the contrasting color fenders only the tops were painted that way. The bottoms were still black."

What that means is that the underneath side of the fenders were black.

Thanks JYD, I did not understand that the cabriolet came with either brown or black fenders with paint code 95 prior to May of '32.

I was going by the following answer to my question of "Are you sure the fenders were painted black?":
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It all depends on when your car was made. Some cabriolets did have contrasting colors on the fenders at some factories, but after May 1st, they were all black. However, one thing to note is that with color combination number 95, Haverhill Brown fenders is way too much brown and it detracts from the rest of the car. Black fenders and a Gold Bronze pinstripe really enhances the Bangor Beige and Haverhill Brown color combination.
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Sorry, I have misunderstood the first sentence, since I have an early Dec. '31 built date at Atlanta I assumed the car came with brown fenders.

The second sentence says "some factories" do you know which ones did what? Did the factory (paint some brown and some black) do this on their own or was it ordered by the car buyer?


Guess I will have to sand down to the original color coat to find out... :( :(

I agree with Skip. Brown fenders look terrible! I have seen a few and photographed a 32 roadster at Hershey about 1975 with brown fenders. It did absolutely nothing for me. Just a personal observation.

I have black on my roadster and I think they look great.

Which paint code is your roadster? Maybe I will get to see it one day, before I have to paint my car.

The chassis sheet metal including fenders was dipped in black paint, hung on hooks (or fixtures) to let excess paint drip off and then baked dry. If optional fenders then they were top coated with lacquer. Only the top or visable surface was top coated.

From what it says in the book.....if lacquer was used as a top coat directly over enamel back then, it would lift the enamel. :eek: :eek:

Not a good thing....

So Gator. If your fenders were brown that paint is laying on the highway somewere.
Never lacquer over enamel!
mmmmm ... maybe the color fenders were enamel.

My car was repainted by the original owner to yellow with black fenders.

I had assumed back in BC (before Chatter) that these were the original colors; JYD decoded the numbers and that is when I found out that it had been repainted to yellow and black.

So I am going to be at the point in time soon when I have to decide about the colors for the car.

Things that are playing with my mind:

--With the VCCA judging rules allowing any '32 paint colors it opens the choices for me.

--What if the VCCA changes the color rules later.

--Do I want it original (total; no added items or paint change).

--Do I want it the way I would like it best, as if I had ordered it in '32 (adding accessories, change color).

--etc




P.S. Under the current VCCA rules could I repaint with any '32 color or only '32 cabriolet colors? :confused:

Are you interested in pleasing VCCA Judges or having a vehicle you like the looks of? To me that is the important question. Are you going to get more joy out of having a car you like or receiving a trophy? Are you going to drive it and have fun or have a show car?

Let's go touring down the Back Roads

I vote for driving it, and having FUN!!!

Trophys just take up valuable shelf space for spare NOS parts

I would suggest that you forget the judging and drive the car and have fun with it. Cars were made to be driven. Besides, the information on the cowl tag (i.e. paint codes) is redundant since the VCCA does not acknowledge that information. And, now that you can apparently have the incorrect year engine in your car (any 1929-32 engine), how important are the correct paint colors anyway?

However, if you really want to have a show car, then I would make it as original as humanly possible, including the correct colors for paint number 95.

It isn't about a trophy for me.

I see VCCA judging as a way to make my car historically correct, a living piece of our American History.

I love our history and I have to decide if I want a car that is historically correct (the way it really was) or only a car that could have been historically correct (clone?).

I saw a lot of kids at the last show I went to and do we really want the next generations to think that all of the cars came with all of the accessories and www and etc that most 'show'
cars have hung on them??

Gator, Sometimes I think you worry about the damnedest things! ROFLMAO

Oh!, I was just wondering, when you get a flat fixed do you ask for the original air to be put back in the tire, and do you always insist on a black patch on a black tube and a red patch on a red tune? Just kidding, I see you just like to do everything the right way, That is good. After all when the info is there why not use it. Eh!

The only 50's cars at the AACA show that I remember riding in for many hours when young were so decked out with continental kits and accessories it took away from the original beauty of the basic car... for me anyway. Just my opinion...

In my very humble opinion when you start to make changes to the car from the way it was you are taking the first steps on a long road that ends with a street rod. Gets hard to stop sometimes. Judging by the ebay prices on accessories I have the minority opinion.

Making changes gets easier and easier as you go along... :eek: :eek: