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Shade Tree Mechanic
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Some more questions on judging the cars, the late 60s and early 70s muscle cars and corvettes. How much of the car do they take a part to see if it is say a Delco coil and cap? On a corvette it has a radio shield that that the distributor cap is under and with out removing it you can not see the cap. Also is it a good idea or not to have a flip book of your restoration photos with the car that the judges could look at?
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Grease Monkey
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Nought to do with your question but thought you might be interested in knowing the number LKS 454 in your title is from my area of Scotland. I'd assume you either have or had that reg no at some time? KS is from Roxburghshire, the main registration office being based in Hawick. Hawick is 50 miles south of Edinburgh and the same north of Carlisle. The border area was famous for it's cashmere and textile industry (Pringles; Dawson International; Lyle and Scott etc (much run down now due to foreign imports). Anyway, here ends the geography and history lesson - just thought you might be interested. I'm still hoping someone can tell me the spares availability for 1927/8 6 cyl tourers. Murray
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Oil Can Mechanic
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Oil Can Mechanic
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the judge does not take anything apart . they will look under the hood, trunk , inside , and underside . the team captain can open the hood or doors if the owner is not present . on some cars with the split hood the owner or rep. will open the other side . the whole process only takes less than ten minutes mostof the time with three judges looking at a car some times there is more judging as some will be in training or the team captain and the chief judge . the only tool a judge has is a pencil . hope this helps
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Technical Advisor ChatMaster - 10,000
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Hi Murray, Welcome to the Chevy Chat II. I think you will have a bit of fun keeping up with the information available on this site. Question: You entered a posting earlier on the 1917-19 V-8 string. If you are looking at a 1917 touring it will be either a Model D or it will be a 4-cylinder 490. Even in this post you used 6-cylinder. No 6-cylinder until 1929 (Exception to the rule, the very early Chevrolet was a 6-cylinder). Don't mean to be critical, but any additional postings should be in the very first string (1912-28) and not in the 1917-19 V-8 or Judging string. It is suggested that you join the VCCA. This allows you to make use of the want ads in our magazine the Generator & Distributor. It also allows you to visit the Members Only section at the end of the topics. Forms are available by downloading. Again, WELCOME aboard. 
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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Oil Can Mechanic
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Oil Can Mechanic
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VCCA judging is visual. If the judges can't see something, they assume it is ok. You might have an off-brand brake wheel cyclinder, but since they can't see it, they will never know and won't deduct for it.
All vehicles start with 1000 points and judges only deduct for what they see as incorrect or in poor (not as delivered by the dealer) condition.
No one entering a vehicle in your class is allowed to judge that class. The effect is that some of the most knowledgeable owners won't be judging your vehicle. For example, I know next to nothing about 70's and 80's Camaros, but I have had to judge them at several meets. What to do? If the transmission says "Dodge" then I deduct all the transmission points. I know it did not leave Chevrolet that way! If window glass is cracked I might deduct 5 points, again because it didn't leave Chevrolet that way. A dirty generator on a 1940 might get a 2 point deduction, but an alternator instead of a generator will get all the generator points deducted.
It is a good idea to talk with owners of the vehicles being judged in your class. I would not consider them so much as competitors (they are!) but more as colleagues of yours on a voyage of discovery. While you should take their stories and advice with a grain of salt (trust but verify), you can learn a lot from them.
The VCCA has a judging manual that has been revised every year recently. It should be available on the VCCA web site. We try for a balance of participants having a good time at our meets, and in encouraging and promoting proper preservation and restoration of Vintage Chevrolets!
Welcome aboard!
Chevy50Jim
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