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This is a new string established for d2d2. The subject is as listed above.

I HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY TO PLACE IN BOLD PRINT EACH HEADING FOR EASIER READING.

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1st number is casting or forging number. 2nd number is part number unless noted.
0.033 BLOCK, CYLINDER
29 835501 362473
30 835501 362845
31 836409 363148
32 836573 363700
33 CC 473180 364838
33 CA CB O 837231 364314
33 CA CB O 837231 601964
34 DA DB P 837231 600372
34 DC 473741 600373
35 837591 601423
36 836010 602028
35-36 836010 604877
0.095 CAP, CRANKSHAFT FRONT BEARING
29 835514 353240
30-31 836287 362781
32-36 836287 363763
0.100 CAP, CRANKSHAFT CENTER BEARING
29-31 836502 363426
32 836577 363712
33-36 837028 364291
0.105 CAP, CRANKSHAFT REAR BEARING
29 835515 348988
30-31 836289 362782
32-36 836578 363719
0.269 HEAD, CYLINDER
29 835503 835674
30-31 836273 836275
32 836718 836717
33 ex CC 836961 836960
33 CC 600568 600568
34 ex DC 837230 837229
34 DC 473740 473739
35-36 837981 601988
0.293 BOLT, CYLINDER HEAD
29-32 1/2-13 x 4 1/8" 835662
33-34 DC C O 1/2-13 x 4 5/16" 836984
34-52 ex DC 1/2-13 x 4 1/2" 838820
35-36 1/2-13 x 3 3/8" 837709
0.333 ARM, VALVE ROCKER
29-31 835549 835676
32-33 837417 600873
34 DC 837417 837415
34-36 ex DC Inlet, L. 837379 837325
34-36 ex DC Inlet, R. 837380 837326
34-40 ex DC Exhaust 839001 838999


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0.349 SUPPORT, VALVE ROCKER ARM
29-31 835572 835572
32 836813 836813
33-34 CA CB CC DC O 836958 836958
34-36 ex DC 837251
0.426 ROD, VALVE PUSH
29-32 12"
33 ex CC 12 43/64"
33 CC 11 17/32"
34 DC 11 1/2"
0.519 CAMSHAFT
29-31 835507 835507
32-34 836598 473750
33-36 ex CC DC 837984 837984
0.603 ROD ASSEMBLY, CONNECTING
29-31 836512 363414
32 836601 363713
33-36 ex CC DC 837684 364323
33-34 CC DC 473188 364822
0.646 CRANKSHAFT
29-30 835508 835801
31 836419 836418
32 836589 837008
33-36 ex CC DC 837631 837630
33-34 CC DC 473185 364867
0.659 PULLEY-BALANCER, CRANKSHAFT
29 width thru hub 2 7/16" p/n 362944
30-31 836349 363354
32-36 ex CC DC 836770 601359
33-34 CC DC width thru hub 2 11/16" p/n 601608
0.666 FLYWHEEL
29-30 836362 836363
31-32 836617 836363
32-33 ex CC 837043 354663
34-35 ex DC EA 837243 837242
34-35 ex DC EA 837243 837484
35-36 837243 836014
0.683 HOUSING, CLUTCH & FLYWHEEL
29-30 835543 836347
31 AE LT 836397 353185
31-32 ex AE LT 836795 363939
33-34 CA DA 837275 600359
35-36 ex EC FC 837963 601837


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0.728 GEAR, CRANKSHAFT TIMING (steel)
29-34 ex CA CB DA DB O P
26 teeth 3 1/16" o.d. p/n 835730
33-34 ex CC DC
27 teeth 3 1/8" 0.d. p/n 836986
35-36 27 teeth stamped 35-6, p/n 837677
0.736 GEAR, CAMSHAFT TIMING (fibre)
29-34 ex CA CB O DA DB P
52 teeth p/n 835730 stamped on
33-36 ex CC DC
54 teeth p/n 836950 stamped on
0.800 PLATE, CLUTCH THROWOUT BEARING
32-34 ex CC DA DC (early 34) 836632 836632
33-34 CC DC 473677 473677
34-37 ex DC (late 34) 837477 837477
0.861 COVER, CLUTCH
29-31 835521 835521
32-34 ex CC DA DC (12 1/8" o.d.) 836620 837180
33-34 CC DC (10 3/4" o.d.) 473660 473660
34-37 ex DC 12 1/8" o.d. stamping p/n 837994
0.863 PLATE, CLUTCH PRESSURE
29 w/ 835635 flywheel 363938 363938
29-31 w/ 836363 flywheel 836461 836461
32-34 ex CC DA DC 836621 836621
33-34 CC DC 473661 473661
34-37 ex DC 837443 837443
0.874 LEVER, CLUTCH PRESSURE
29-31 346811 346811
32-34 ex CC DA DC 836622 836622
33-34 CC DC 473731 473731
34-37 ex DC w/ 837443 plate p/n 837556
1.062 PULLEY, FAN & WATER PUMP
30-31 836767 836259
32-36 837606 837872
37 838466 838473
38 w/ .590 shaft 838764 838763
38 w/ .610 shaft 838764 598310
1.069 PUMP, WATER
29-31 835702 601108
32-34 ex CC DC 836944 601108
35 837610 837608
36 836078 836705
37-38 598309 598308
1.108 SHAFT WITH ROTOR, WATER PUMP
29-34 ex CC DC 835816 835818
33-34 CC DC 473670 473669
35 837605 837604
36 836079 836077
37 w/ 838464 pump 4" length 837605 838273
38 w/ 603148 pump 4 1/2" length 837605 838761


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1.153 WATER OUTLET
29-36 ex CC DC 836272 837334
37-39 383340 383340
1.652 PUMP ASSEMBLY, OIL
29-32 836550 473730
33-34 CC DC 836997 473730
33-34 ex CC DC p/n 837201
35-36 p/n 837753
1.652 PUMP ASSEMBLY, REPLACEMENT UNIT, OIL
29 (7 5/16") p/n 604506
30-34 ex CA CB O DA DB P (7 1/16") p/n 604507
33-34 ex CC DC (7 7/16") p/n 604508
35 (7 11/16" shaft end flat) p/n 604509
36 (7 11/16" shaft end slotted) p/n 604510
37-39 838442 838440
40-52 839159 839157
1.653 BODY, OIL PUMP
29 use with 604506 p/n 604182
30-34 use with 604507 p/n 604187
33-34 use with 604508 p/n 604165
35-36 use with 604509 or 604910 p/n 604172
37-39 838442 838440
37-39 838442 838441
40-52 839159 839158
1.723 COVER, OIL PUMP
29-31 w/ 1/8 pipe p/n 346832
29-34 w/ hex pipe p/n 837204
29-36 604158 604157
32-33 p/n 364999
35-36 837674 837674
37-39 838448 838447
40-52 839277 839276
2.274 PULLEY, GENERATOR
29 (1 1/8" greatest thickness) p/n 601878
30-31 (1 1/8" greatest thickness) p/n 836256
32-35 ex EA ED (1 5/16" greatest thickness)
p/n 837879
33-35 364986 364986
35-38 ex EB EC HC HD HE Q T
w/ fan 4 15/16" o.d. (1 13/16 greatest thickness)
p/n 597667
36-51 w/ fan (for low speed driving) 602253 604486
48-52 w/ fan (5" dia. pulley) p/n 1911990
3.265 MANIFOLD, INTAKE
29 p/n 835737
30-31 836343 836343
32 836726 836726
33 836927 836927
34 ex DA 837315 837315
34-35 DA EA ED 837232 837232
35-36 EB EC FA 837595 837595


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3.601 MANIFOLD, EXHAUST
29 836281 835738
30-31 836342 836342
32-33 836723 364395
34-36 837308 837309
4.103 CASE, TRANSMISSION
29-30 590391 353300
31 590452 590451
31 4 speed 590456 590455
31-47 4 speed ex LT 590474 590524
32-36 ex CC DC 590532 590531
33-34 CC DC p/n 473207
34-36 DA EA 590695 590697
35 4 speed (WT) 476187
4.105 COVER - CASE, TRANSMISSION
29-31 590281 590280
29-31 4 speed 590369 352323
32-36 590591 363840
35 (WM) p/n 601421
36 (WM) p/n 602135
4.626 BUSHING, BRAKE PEDAL (0.831)
29-36 13/16" o.d. x 3/4" i.d. x 1 17/64"
5.504 CARRIER ASSEMBLY, DIFFERENTIAL
29 AC p/n 362147
29 LQ p/n 353293
30 AD p/n 362718
30 LR p/n 362706
30-31 LS LT 359327 363013
31 AE stamped 76 p/n 363076
31-32 M N p/n 363492
32 BA stamped 14 p/n 363714
32 BB 357388 363691
33 CA stamped 54 p/n 363354
33 CB stamped 55 p/n 363355
33 CC stamped 29 p/n 364829
33 O 370430 372224
34 DA stamped 42 p/n 600542
34-35 DB EA EB ED stamped 68 p/n 600268
34-39 P Q R S T V ex VE VF p/n 598628
34-35 DC EC stamped 50 p/n 601750
35-36 EA EB ED FA FB FD stamped 77 p/n 601277
36 FC 473644 602031
5.510 CASE, DIFFERENTIAL
29 AC 356640 361979
30-32 AD AE BA 357388 362720
33-35 CC DC EC 472505 364826
33-39 CA CB DA DB EA EB ED FA FB FD
GC GD GE HC HD HE JC JD JE 369951 364538
36 FC 592194 602043


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5.548 JOINT ASSEMBLY, UNIVERSAL
29 AC front 347661 343881
29 AC rear 347660 343881
30-31 AD AE front 347661 362739
30-31 AD AE rear 357493 362739
32-33 ex CC front 367795 363717
32-33 ex CC rear 357493 363717
33-36 CC DC EC FC front 473772 601889
33-36 CC DC EC FC rear 474923 601889
34-36 DA DB EA EB ED FA FB FD front 367795 600174
34-36 DA DB EA EB ED FA FB FD rear 373536 600174
5.806 HUB, REAR WHEEL
29 AC 346429 354614
29 LQ 354626 354626
30-31 LS LT disc wheel 359423 359423
30-31 LS LT dual wheel 359422 359422
30-32 AD AE BA w/ hole 1.033" i.d. 365539 358016
31-33 M N O 367018 367018
32 B w/ hole 1.127" i.d. 369559 369559
34-35 P Q 374448 374448
36-39 all utility p/n 607408
6.008 FRONT AXLE "I" BEAM
29 AC 353915 362291
30-33 AD AE BA CB 363743 363743
31-40 utility ex c.o.e. 3681642 3680905
33 CA 370823 370823
34-40 comm. 8 holes in spring pad 370823 370823
34-35 DC EC 374635 374635
35-36 ED FD 7 holes in spring pad 370823 376879
36 FC p/n 475461
6.785 HOUSING, PITMAN SHAFT
31-35 ex CA CC DA DC EA EC ED 260368 260365
33 CA 261475 261488
33-34 CC DC 261547 261546
34 DA 261893 261924
35-36 EA FA 262668 262667
35-36 ED FD 262807 262808
36 FB R 262944 262943
36 FC 263009 263008
6.803 HOUSING, STEERING GEAR
29-30 552539 552542
31-36 ex DA EA FA FD 260364 260364
34-36 DA EA FA FD 261892 262237
7.233 BRACKET, STEERING GEAR MOUNTING
36 FB R bracket 476565 476565
36 FB R cap 476587 476587


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CYLINDER HEAD CASTING NUMBER IDENTIFICATION
from Generator & Distributor June 1977 page 28
1917-19 338048 D V8
1922 381099 FB Three Port
1916-21 333776
1922-27 345453 Single Port 1 1/2" Valve
1927 346886 Single Port AA LM 1 21/32" Valve
1928 348540 Two Port
1929 835503
1930-31 836273 & 836275 **
1932 836718
1933 836961 CA, 1933 600569 CC
1934 837230 DA, 1934 473740 DC
1935 early 837230 Master 40 Angle Seats
1935-36 837981 30 Angle Seats
1937 early 838355
1937-40 838773
1941-48 839401 216, 235
1949 3835409 216, 235
1950-53 3835517 216
1950-52 3835499
1950-52 3835909 235
1953 3701887 235
1954-55 3835913 235
1954 3835499 261
1955 3708570 261
1956 3836848 235
1954-55 3836241 Corvette 6 Cyl.
1955 3703523 Pass., Corvette 265 V8
1956 3725306, 3837064 Pass., Corvette 265 V8
1957 3731554 Pass., Truck 283 V8
1957 3731539 Pass. w/ 4BC 283 V8
1957 3740997 Pass., Corvette w/ Dual 4BC 283 V8
** Correction: Casting 836273, p/n 836275


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CYLINDER BLOCK CASTING NUMBER IDENTIFICATION
from Generator & Distributor June 1977 page 28
1924 327773
1927 348709
1928 348532
1929 835501
1930-31 836409
1932 836573
1933-34 837231 CA, DA Master & Truck
1933 473180 CC
1934 473741 DC
1935-36 836010
1937-38 838710
1939 838941
1940 839132
1941 839400 216 Pass. & Truck
1941 3660439 235 Truck
1942-47 839770 & 839910 216 Pass. & Truck
1942-47 3835335 & 839751 235 Truck
1948-49 3835253 216 Pass. & Truck
1948-49 3835309 235 Truck
1950-51 3692703 235 Pass. w/ Powerglide
1950-51 3835497 216 Pass. & Truck
1950-51 3692713 235 Truck
1952 3835692 235 Pass. w/ Powerglide, Truck
1952-53 3835849 216 Pass. & Truck
1953 3701946 235 exc. Powerglide
1953 3701481 235 w/ Powerglide
1954 3701481 & 3835911 235 w/ Powerglide
1954 3701481 235 exc. Powerglide
1954-55 3702436 & 3703414 261 Truck
1955 3835911 & 3733949 235 exc. Powerglide
1955 3836233 235 w/Powerglide
1955-56 3836340 261 Truck
1953-55 3835911 235 Corvette 6 Cyl.
1955 3703524 265 V8 Pass. & Corvette
1956 3720991 265 V8 Corvete


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I will offer a few corrections to the information from the G&D article. One number listed for the 1930-31 heads is the part number and the other is the casting number. I don't have a parts book handy to be sure which is which. The 1930 block casting number is: 835501 and not the same as 1931! This is a mistake repeated numerous times.

When I get home with my records I will send some corrections. My memory is like a steel trap. Unfortuately I forgot how to open it.


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Thanks Chip. Corrections, additions, questions and comments are welcome.


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Boy, What a welt of information and I used it a few times already. Just a little request, would it be too much trouble when you go from say like PULLEY to OIL PUMP they would be in BOLD PRINT so they are easier to pick up? I'm not lazy but I think it would do us a great service. :rolleyes: dance Thanks


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I just looked up the part number for the 1930-31 head 836275. The casting number is 836273.


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D2D2,
I have a few more head and block casting numbers that I have gathered.
block cast. no.
1933 836915 836961
1935 837591 837682
Head cast no's.
1935 601478 837922 837852
1937 602746 838355
1938 602977
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Just looked up the casting numbers on the 3 blocks I'm taking in to get boiled out and fluxed. #835503 is for the '29 & #'s 836273 & 836275 is correct for a '30 or my '31. This was taken from d2d2's posting. Am I correct? Chipper's posting just above sounds a little differnt. Maybe I'm missing something. Oh yes, that BOLD type sure helps. Thanks,
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That is incorrect! As stated by Chipper Dipper the casting numbers listed in the G&D article above are also incorrect.

The block casting number for both 1929 and 1930 is 835501. The block casting number for 1931 is 836409 (see d2d2's first posting on March 02, 2004 22:09).

"836273" is the casting number for a 1930-31 cylinder head and "836275" is the Chevrolet part number for that same 1930-31 cylinder head.

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Still a little confused. The #835503 & #836273 are located to the front of the head with a bow tie emblem above it and no number to the rear & the #836275 is located to the rear of the head and no bow tie & no number to the front. It also has MC 603 on it. Will clean them up more tonight and have another look. There are some other numbers on them but quite different. Hate to spend money on the #836275 if it some type of different head. Will report back later.


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In your posting of November 17, 2005 20:19, you stated "Just looked up the casting numbers on the 3 blocks I'm taking in to get boiled out".

From that posting you led us to believe that you were talking about engine BLOCK casting numbers. As stated previously the BLOCK casting number for the 1929 and 1930 cylinder block is 835501. The BLOCK casting number for 1931 is 836409.

The CYLINDER HEADS used different casting numbers. For 1929 the casting number on the CYLINDER HEAD is 835503 and the Chevrolet part number for that cylinder head is 835674. Both 1930 and 1931 used the same cylinder head so the casting number for the CYLINDER HEAD for that application is 836273. The Chevrolet part number for that CYLINDER HEAD is 836275.

Hope this helps to clear up the confusion. Good luck with your project too!

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JYD,
Your right, I should of used the block on MY shoulders when I entered Block instead of Head in my Nov. 17th post. :o flush Thanks for catching that. I just cleaned them off the best I could and here'e what I found:
>HEAD #1 - Towards the front is a bowtie then 14, underneath that is 835503, then center bottom is CONV-13 on a little tag and then 120 on a little tag.
>HEAD #2 - Towards the front is a bowtie then 16, underneath that is 836273, then center bottom is CONV-12 on a little tag and then C21 on a little tag.
>HEAD #3 - In the middle of the HEAD is MC 603, under that is 11-4 on a tag, then a little further back even with the MC 603 is a U, then to the back is 836275.
Those are the only numbers I could find. Would head #2 be a '31 with the casting number only and Head #3 be a '31 with the part number only? They sure look alike. Note, HEAD #3 does not have a bowtie on it.
>My BLOCK number is 836409 so I'm OK there for my '31.
Hope I don't confuse anyone too much stressed
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Head number one is for 1929.

Head number two is for 1930-31.

Head number three is also for 1930-31 and it apparently is a replacement.

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Thank you for all of the work and effort and time you put into this for us d2d2.

I copied all of it to Word and then made another copy with just '32 information on it, will be very helpful during the restoration.

Thanks again and thanks to those who helped with it also.

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The G&D block casting numbers for 1935 & 1936 should not be the same as 35 had only the top of the cylinders covered with a water jacket and the 36 block had full cylinder water jackets. The casting # on the 35 block is 837591. The casting # on the 36 block is 836010. Hope this helps.


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That often confuses people.They look in a later parts book that was issued after the 1935 engine was discontinued and the 1936 was used for replacement.The book shows the 1935 and 1936 block casting number as 836010, which was the number for the 1936 block only when the cars were new.
This also happened for 1937-38-39 and again for the 216 for 1941,47,48, and 1952(all years changes were made.


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I have a question on a head casting #.

I pulled a head off a 1954 235.
It had full pressure oiling & the 216 style water pump , solid lifters & had the car motor mounting pads up front.

The head casting # is 3836848.
All the listings I can find i.d. this head as a 1956 head.

I was under the impression that the 1953 powerglide & the 1954 235 full pressure heads were not interchangable with the later '55-'62 235 heads.

Could someone have gotten away with installing a '55-'62 head on a 1954 block ?

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The 235 head will fit from 1953 thru 1962.There were up-grades thru the years and minor changes though.If you purchased a new head for a 1953 in 1963 you got a 1962 head with a bushing for the temp. sender so the original gauge could be used.
The "848" head was used from 1956 thru 1962 in production and had two different compression ratios thru those years.8.00 to 1 in 1956-57, and 8.25 for 1958-62.
The dipper and the full pressure 235 engine used the same heads in 1953.The higher compression ratio (7.5) for the P.G. engine was due to the slightly higher pistons which came up even to the top of the block.The "53 P.G and later 235 aluminum pistons can be used in a 1941-53 235 giving a .4 compression ratio increase.

The 216 style (wide pulley) water pump indicates that it may have been from a truck, along with the solid lifters.The water pump should have had the little by-pass hole on the back plate although a earlier w/pump can be installed.All 1953-54 blocks had the motor mount side pads, car or truck.


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Thanks "Nut" this helps

I found it interesting that the block of this motor had a blank # pad near the distributor.
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MT, I have the same situation in my 53 belAire sedan the casting numbers show it to be cast in 1956, but it has a blank engine number pad, like yours and also a 54 type water pump, and solid lifters. I haven't torn it down, it runs too good, no smoke, don't use any oil and every cylinder shows 155 to 160 pounds on a compression test. It probably will out last me at 500 miles a year. I have replaced the water pump and it is stock 1954.


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Back in the late '70s I bought a NOS factory short block - 216 for my '48. It had a blank pad in the same location as the engine above. It was a correct block for a '48 -'49 with the number 48 in the cast
circle near the fuel pump. I was told that was done so that the original engine number could be stamped on the blank pad.. Some states registered the car
with the engine number and that relieved the customer of having to change his title..

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Is there a moderator (or somebody) around who can change that photo so that this post can be read without making the reader think they're at a tennis match???

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Back in the 30's replacement crate engines were not stamped either. The dealer was suppost to transfer the old number since most car/trucks were titled with the engine number. I have a new 36 short block that was bought out of parts with no serial # the block was cast in 1938.


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As I remember it from the '50's a new block,we called them short blocks,had crank,pistons,rods,etc. or a bare block ( no internal parts) came with no number and the old number was transfered (stamped in).If a complete engine was installed the number was stamped at the factory as the engine came off the line.The complete engine came with the flywheel housing,clutch,valve cover, spark plugs and was painted just as the engine that came in a new vehicle.Did not have generator,starter,carb., fuel pump,etc.

Short and bare blocks came out of the crate unpainted.

I installed a bare block in my'39 years back.It has the correct casting number for a '39, has a cast date of 1946,and I have no record of what the old engine number was so the area is blank.I threw out the old cracked block and never recorded the number.The car is titled by the serial number..


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Thanks Mothertrucker, for your help on the oversize picture.

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No doubt Mike McCagh can 'discuss' this better than I; but as I understand it this would be a big problem in NCRS. Also the idea of a "C" block, a replacement block.

It does seem like sometimes the whole 'judging thing' can be 'too technical.' And yet, why not have to have it 'right' if you're in the judging?? That's why it's so difficult to understand this nutsy idea about 'any' engine is OK, as long as it's the 'right size.' Man, that does seem like a real stretch - in the judging process.

I wonder what 'those folks' were thinking about??????

On the other hand, with a 'tour-type' car it can actually make sense. For instance a later 235 in a car like my 54. Better engine, more performance with the '848' head, etc. But NOT for a 'judged' car. That just isn't right!

And, THANKS for 'adjusting' the picture. Much better!!! laugh laugh wink

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Just a quick reminder that Tech Talk is to remain strictly technical, unlike the other threads. We ask your cooperation.

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Maybe somebody on this forem can put together a petition to request a change in the engine judging to go back to the correct year engine in the same year vehicle. A 36 engine just shouldn't be allowed in a 34 vehicle if trying to preserve a stock vehicle.


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Hi 35 pickup man,

Please note the above post and the instructions at the start of this thread. Please move the discussion on judging to the judging thread.

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Yes boss it's been moved. Sometimes you can stop when the topic is hot!


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THANKS!

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A more accurate list of block casting numbers is at <http://home.znet.com/c1937/Cast.htm>.

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An error that should be noted: Engine block Casting number #838710, is 1938 only, not 37. #838101 is 37 only. Outside the 37 in the only engine to have the serial number by the fuel pump and oil filler in right side. The 38 has serial number by Ignition Distributor. Inside the 37 has a place for lifter springs that weren't used on 38s. .
. For a more accurate list of casting numbers, see < http://home.znet.com/c1937/Cast.htm >.

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Valuable to get a list of the casting numbers.

Why not open a special thread for Data plates/Identity inquiries as well and put the both under a new subject called Identification?

May be a list of the different factories (US/Can, and others) could be added as an extra thread under the same subject?

Or am I asking what already is written in the Chat somewhere? stressed


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A special category for data plates and ID numbers?

In other words, a registry containing all that and more, including trim and paint combination numbers. I thought it was a great idea and tried it about ten years ago. It never got official support from VCCA, so it was discontinued.


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Dave, Erling,

Maybe the VCCA leadership changes will result in more appreciation for what can be done and not what has been done.

The VCCA membership has more knowledge of Chevolet history than all of GM combined. Think we also may now more about old Chevy construction, maintenance and authenticity that they do. It would be a crying shame if it was not preserved. Would also be a shame if it was not available for use by current VCCA members. Keep the faith, with all of us contributing it is possible.


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I think that it is about time we at VCCA start applying the talent and knowledge of our members to sort the chaff from the grain and use it to compile a "VCCA Registry of Chevrolet Vehicles."
I have been lead asrtay a couple of times by trusting a website declareing that they had the correct casting numbers, Paint & Trim Codes.
Someone , or several someones,without bias toward what is actually accepted as correct data could compile the data and then it could be entered into a read only Thread,or web page maybe here on Teck Talk?
I would like to see several of our members start collecting the information and do interviews and querys like an author does when a technical article is being prepared for publication.
How many members do we have on the National Judging Committee? To me the VCCA Registry of Chevrolet Vehicles is just as important as the Judging Committee or any of the other standing committees. (IMHO)


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As far as I have discovered, there are a lot of articles covering ID f.ex. the casting numbers,VIN codes, data tags, job numbers located to years, models and which factories.

I know much is known and free to all users on the web at the moment. May be I am thinking wrong, but I feel all that kind of future information, researched and sorted by our own members using numerous hours, should be collected and shown inside the members own pages. It should be a clear and outspoken advantage to be a VCCA member (compared to other Chevy enthusiasts)and the technical support and "parts for sale"ads are two main options, for sure.

I really hope for a database to arrive in short time, making it possible to give the members more advantages, and more members to join VCCA to get all those advantages too.

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Solan, I agree that access to a secured and protected Database Membership and also a Chevrolet historical database should be a good incentive to join VCCA.

Keith Hardy's web site is a good example of what can be done to collect and display the documents related to our hobby.


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I have a bell housing or clutch cover with cast number 836387. Do you know the year for this cover / housing??


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