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Recently joined the VCCA. Would like some help with a 1935 Master Deluxe Sport Coupe with Continental Kit and Rumble Seat that I have purchased. Am trying to get a handle on a value of the model. Car appears to be all original and is in running condition. Can't seem to find many 35 coupes with a rumble seat. Model number is 35-1057, body type shows "N", Trim No shows "47", Paint # is either 184 or 164 (hard to read), but current color is black. Car is in very good condition, current mileage is 79,000, seems to need only a repaint and re-upholster. Any help would be appreciated. Is this particular model with the rumble seat rare or common??

Welcome to the VCCA!
It appears you have a 3-window Sport Coupe. On the passenger side floor between the seat and the door there should be a serial number tag. If your identification has an EA it's a Master with Knee-action shocks (most common). If it's ED that's a straight axle car. Let us know the entire sequence and we can decipher the number.
By 'continental kit' I assume you mean a rear-mounted spare tire. That feature was standard on Master coupes and coaches. Your particular model had a fairly low production run of 11,901. For comparison, the Coach model had a production of nearly 103,000, highest of the Master series.
The paint and trim numbers indicate a black exterior and (I believe) a taupe (tan) interior.

Value? Whatever the market will bear. You just purchased it so for now that's fair market value.

Coach

welcome to VCCA

And you have come to the right place & joined the right club for knowledge, assistance and fun with your 35.

I have no experience in your car but most of the other guys on this site will know your car inside & out and I am sure they will answer every question.

As far as "Value" goes, you might try www.manheimgold.com. They have prices for cold cars in various shape/condition that are supposedly taken from recent auctions. And there is always ebay, Hemmings and a few other old car sites. Take a look at these sites {and others} for information as to What People are paying. Which may or may not dictate the real value.

Enjoy your car & your new club
Michael41

The 1935 Master rumble seat coupe would have the highest value of all 1935 Master body styles. Not because it was the lowest production but because its the most sporty body style.
Paint #184 would have been black with a cream stripe. The coupe would have had wire wheels and they could be black or cream.
Trim #47 would be the standard tan mohair. Trim #48 would be the optional woven cloth. The 35-1057 indentifies the body style that you describe. The N you mention should have the body sequence production number after it. The N indiactes that the body was made at the Fisher Body plant in Norwood, Ohio. The car would have been assembled there also. The serial number next to the battery cover would verify that.
My older Old Cars value guide gives a value of $7000 for that model in #3 condition. The value goes up to $13,000 for #2 condition which would require it to be a fairly well restored car. No one can give a accurate value without seeing the car.

Hi Coach, thanks a mil for your reply and info. I found the plate you described next to the battery box. Nomenclature showed 9EA03 separated by a space and the numbers 6586, no other entries on the plate. Hope this helps. I looked high and low on the net for this 35 with the rumble seat, could only find one that was street rodded. Everything on this car is original, I would not think of doing anything but keeping it original. Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks,

Dufdaddy
Diamondhead, Ms.

Hi Michael41. Thanks for the kudos, looking forward to communications with guys with similar interests. Will definetly try the web site you provided.

Dufdaddy
Diamondhead, Ms.

9=assembled in Norwood
EA=Master Dealuxe with knee-action independent front suspension
03=assembled March
6586 is production sequence number at that plant.
You have a very desireable car :)

Hi Chevgene. Thanks much for your response and info. This definetly helps. The car is no doubt black, but has red spoke rims and red trim stripes in the hood moldings. Only other number on the plate was "30" and was quite far from the "N" designation. The car is totally original, down to the knee action front end, motor, carb, dash, etc. Body is in great shape with no rust. Currently having the carburator rebuilt, seals bad apparently from time. Can't seem to find any other 35 with the rumble seat, hope this makes it rare and valuable. Any help or info you guys can provide is greatly appreciated.

Dufdaddy
Diamondhead, Ms.

Chevgene:

Can't thank you enough for your help. I was hoping I didn't make a bad buy. Seems I've lucked upon a gem. My plan is to put a killer paint job on it,(black, of course)and uphostry in it and enjoy the envy from my buddies when I bring it to shows and cruise ins. Hopefully, as I learn more about it, I can continue to improve upon its originality. Plan to improve on the chrome and stainless parts to make it even better.

Thanks once again, can send you pics if I have your e-mail.

Dufdaddy
Diamondhead, Ms.
mdduffy@cableone.net

Way to go Dufdaddy. Maybe you could post pix here for all to see...

Dufdaddy:
Gene has decoded the serial number correctly...as always!

Yes, your car is quite desireable. I know of one other like yours that is currently undergoing a very slow restoration but I don't know that I've seen one on the road.
By the way, do the red wheels appear to be an original color or possible a repaint? I have two different pieces of literature that differ; one says red wheels weren't available until 1936 and another shows them available in '35. You mention your wheels are "spoke"; I assume these are wire wheels. Also available were the stamped steel 'artillery' wheels?

If you could post some pictures we'd love to see it!

Coach,
He sent me pictures of the car and its a dandy. Just what every 1935 lover would die for. Looks like it has a newer Hampton Coach interior. Has wire wheels as a coupe shuold. My paint info. shows only cream wheels (and black) for blackk cars but red wire wheels for some other color combinations. There may have been a later change for black cars but I doubt if they would have had a cream stripe with red wheels.

An after thought. The car would have had a cream stripe with that paint number...In 1939 and 1940 (perhaps other years) a black car could have had a red or ivory stripe (wheels and body) but the paint numbers were different for the two color stripes.

Gene:
You hit on the exact issue I have with the red wheels on my car. I paintend mine red as I felt the car needed a little brightening up. Plus, I have an aftermarket paint catalog that shows red wheels in '35. The issue is the pinstriping...I agree the only stripe color on black paint is cream, and I don't think that will match well with the red wheels. I'd like to do the striping in red, but I'm pretty sure that isn't 'correct'. Still, I think it would look as nice on the '35 as it does on the later cars. So, for now there's no pinstriping at all. Maybe someday I'll paint the wheels the correct cream and do the stipe the same!

we have a 35 5 window coupe no rumble seat ut has a trunk long enough to lay down in and get a nap . i think that it is one of the most desireable . for several reasons the style it has plenty power even pull the 3.70 rearend runs 55_ 60 easy and rides good and quiet . their are more of them than i thought around the country seem to pop up every now and then . i think the 35 ta has one like yours . they are not on every street corner .the 35 mostly was a one year car meaning that most of the parts were used only on the 35 not all but most i am talking about the master cars . hope you enjoy as much as we do ours when we get ready to do a early 6 tour which we do several a year the wife ask which car we will be driving she allways hopes it is the 35 coupe she likes the radio when you can get a good am country station or the heater when it drops down to 28

I found my up-dated Jan. 1935 paint Specs. Paint 184, black, had a Bronze Gold stripe. Wire wheels could be Cream medium, Aurora Red, or black. Sedans with steel wheels , black only with the Gold Bronze stripe.

Pushrod:
What rearend do you have that gets a 3.70 ratio? The typical ratio is a 4:11 and the economy gears used on taxis and the like is a 3.82. I'd like to lower my ratio from the standard 4.11.

coach it has been a while back that i put the gears in do not remember the exact teeth numbers if i can find the box i will post probably the economy gear set i though they were in the 3.7 something what i do remember is in 35 there was two differant rear ends used and the ring and pinion will not inter change one uses a hyatt bearing the other a ball bearing . i could not find any markings to tell the differance . on this car i would not go any higher than the 3.80 or what ever it is . i have had the 35 out west in the hills or mountains and it pulls good. much lower you get a lot of second gear time . hope this helps

Thanks for the update. The standard gears were a 37 tooth ring and a 9 tooth pinion, for a 4.11 to 1 ratio. The economy gears are 42 tooth ring and 11 tooth pinion, for a 3.82 ratio. I suspect that's the one you have.

Recently purchased a 1935 chevrolet master deluxe sport coupe with the rumble seat style no 35-1057, all original 36k miles and had been sitting in a barn since the early 70's. I have found a lot of useful information on the site but what I haven't found is that the code 35-1057 was supposed to be a "special coupe". What made it special compared to the 35-1087 which was also supposed to be a 4 passenger coupe w/rumble seat.

Jason,
I looked in two of my old Master parts catalogs and can find no reference to a 35-1087 Job Number. 1087 appears later but I do not see it in 1935. The book "75 years of Chevrolet" by George Damann, does not mention a 4 passenger coupe for 1935. There are mistakes and omissions from this book so I would not consider it it be an absolute authority.

Mike

1935 CHEVROLET [OSHAWA]
FISHER BODY NUMBERS
MASTER SIX SERIES E.A. 10 [NO ED WITH STANDARD FRONT SUSPENSION IN CANADA]
01 5-PASSENGER REGULAR COACH 35-1001
09 5-PASSENGER REGULAR 35-1009
11 5-PASSENGER TOWN SEDAN 35-1011
17 2-PASSENGER REGULAR BUSINESS COUPE 35-1017B
19 5-PASSENGER SPORT SEDAN 35-1019
57 4-PASSENGER SPECIAL COUPE [RUMBLE SEAT] 35-1057
87 4-PASSENGER REGULAR RUMBLE SEAT COUPE 35-1087
89 5-PASSENGER DELUXE SEDAN 35-1089
91 5-PASSENGER DELUXE COACH WITH TRUNK 35-1091
99 5-PASSENGER DELUXE SEDAN WITH TRUNK 35-1099
STANDARD SIX SERIES E.C. 12
01 5-PASSENGER REGULAR COACH 35-1201
07 2-PASSENGER COUPE 35-1207
07B 2-PASSENGER REGULAR BUSINESS COUPE 35-1207B
09 5-PASSENGER REGULAR SEDAN 35-1209
46 4-PASS. REGULAR RUMBLE SEAT ROADSTER 35-1246
56 5-PASSENGER REGULAR PHAETON 35-1256
89 5-PASSENGER DELUXE SEDAN 35-1289
71 SEDAN DELIVERY 35-1271[A FOR STRAIGHT AXLE?]

found these listings, however the listings for cars built in the US doesn't list a 10-57. so were they only built in Canada and then assembled in Norwood Ohio

Hi Jason

How many windows does your coupe have not counting the windshield?
Three or five?

3

I don't believe the Model was marketed in the U.S. That explains why it does not appear in U.S. Master Parts Catalog or books about U.S. Models.

Mike