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#417266 11/09/18 09:47 PM
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I am headed to NC to take possession of my 1946 1/2 ton. My son has had it for 4 years and I finally talked him into selling it to me.

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My question is what are my options to make the brakes work better and still keep it close to original or is only option Disk brakes?

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Nice looking truck Stephen.

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The factory brakes were fairly good for that light truck. The stock brakes do not compare to moderrn power discs but should be able to lock-up the wheels.
If the pedal is hard and low stopping power I would suspect one or more of the wheels cylinders is rusted and pistons are stuck. I would begin by going through the brakes. Also todays non-asbestose linings do not have the stopping power of the good old asbestoes .


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Originally Posted by keroppi
Nice looking truck Stephen. I can't help you too much as I am new to these trucks myself. I also have a '46 and the brakes have been gone through. I was told by the seller that the previous owner before him had rebuilt the master cylinder and replaced the brake lines. The truck stops like it should.

I have other cars and trucks without disc brakes, so plan to keep this one as-is. One thing you can do is take things apart and make sure everything is lubed up good. I've been told that these brakes have a tendency to stick after time and that will prevent that from happening.

Your truck looks like it has had the engine upgraded, similar to mine. Should have had the 216 in it originally, but it looks like you have the 235/261.

I'm more concerned to get the rear end gearing changed if it needs so. I will try to figure that out this weekend, which will be the first weekend for me to really drive it. I've been told that these trucks will have no problems at 65-70mph with 3.55:1 gearing on the rear end.

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thanks, i saw yours on the other post...keep me informed on the rear end...my truck currently has a top speed of 50

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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The factory brakes were fairly good for that light truck. The stock brakes do not compare to moderrn power discs but should be able to lock-up the wheels.
If the pedal is hard and low stopping power I would suspect one or more of the wheels cylinders is rusted and pistons are stuck. I would begin by going through the brakes. Also todays non-asbestose linings do not have the stopping power of the good old asbestoes .
Thanks for the info,,,will do

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Originally Posted by StephenC
thanks, i saw yours on the other post...keep me informed on the rear end...my truck currently has a top speed of 50
Originally they had a 4.11:1 rear end on them.

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thanks, i saw yours on the other post...keep me informed on the rear end...my truck currently has a top speed of 50
Here's what I've been told to determine what ratio you have. Jack the rear end up, mark a tire, mark the flywheel. Have a friend watch the flywheel and go one revolution. Count the revolution of the rear wheel. Originally they had a 4.11:1 rear end on them.

There's a guy here on VCC Chat who sells the rear end gears for $350 w/shipping. His username is Mothertrucker, and his article he pointed to was pretty straight forward, but you need to fabricate a pinion gap tool.

I just printed it out in GIMP to an inkjet that is almost out of ink, it measures correctly. Here's to the magic of the Internet! cool

See this post if you haven't seen it already. (you probably have)

Whether you do it yourself or have someone do it for you, that is basically what needs to be done. In that thread it was said to probably cost about $2k to have it done. That kinda gives you a range of what to expect...there are some shops that do that type of work. I would like to find out how much a shop would charge. I'm gonna find out before I do it, but I'm curious.

That said you also need to consider the transmission in your truck. There are some variables... crazy

My $0.02, which costs you nothing, is if you want to drive it, plan on it. If you don't drive it much, it might not matter. That's a nice looking truck. Was it upgraded to 12v? That's something I might need to consider, mine has 6volt.

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thanks, yes 12 volt and it has the 235 motor.... not sure i want to do the rear gear though if it cost 2 grand.....fix the brakes and redo the bed wood is my priority at this time

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Originally Posted by StephenC
thanks, yes 12 volt and it has the 235 motor.... not sure i want to do the rear gear though if it cost 2 grand.....fix the brakes and redo the bed wood is my priority at this time
Good for you on the 12 volt. Yes, $2k if you have someone do it for you, but $350 if you do it yourself.

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Well, I have some work to do on my brakes...by the time I got back to the yard they were pretty much to the floor. I need to do some research on the brakes to understand them before I tear too much apart. I will need to get it to my house to work on it.

I'm definitely going to be in the market for a rear end gearing upgrade. blush

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Originally Posted by StephenC
not sure i want to do the rear gear though if it cost 2 grand.

Just to clarify, this is what Mark said and it makes sense that if you were going to replace the gears, you would replace the bearings also. I plan to keep my truck, so plan to do this as I want everything in working order.

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If you decide to do the swap, the gears will cost $350. However, while the rear end is apart, it would be wise to replace both pinion bearings, both differential side bearings, and both axle bearings and seals. Those parts will probably be around $400. I'd guess a good shop would probably charge around 12 hours of labor at $100/hour, so you'd be looking at about $2,000 to have the job done.


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If I was to doing the gears for a customer I would also do the bearings and seals with no discussion as part of the job. I prefer the "do it once and get paid not do it twice and pay the cost". Admittedly I take short cuts with my own vehicles though.
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I got my truck home from NC to KS. My brakes are hard. Is that normal? I may just be spoiled to power brakes.No noise or scrapping but just really hard to push. It stops but of course not on a dime. My speedo doesn't work (i checked the cable and gear in the trany.) My fuel gauge doesn't either. I think it's my Cluster, any idea's or am i on the right track ?

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The most commmon problem with the Huck brakes Chevrolet used from 1936-1950 is the aluminum pistons in the iron wheel cylinders get rusted tight. This give a hard pedal and poor brakes.


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Stephen, the fuel gauge doesn't work because the person who converted the truck to a 12-volt system probably did not put a resistor in the fuel gauge circuit.


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Thanks. i'll change the wheel cylinders and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Bill Masters
Stephen, the fuel gauge doesn't work because the person who converted the truck to a 12-volt system probably did not put a resistor in the fuel gauge circuit.
i am new to this type of stuff, what do i need exactly if you don't mind

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Stephen, the fuel gauge doesn't work because the person who converted the truck to a 12-volt system probably did not put a resistor in the fuel gauge circuit.
i am new to this type of stuff, what do i need exactly if you don't mind
Just a guess here, but normally a resistor is needed in order to run the 6v fuel gauge off the 12v.

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I dont think the 12v theory is the problem, check all connections including the grounds in the system and for power. The unit that has power on 1 side but not the other is generally the problem.
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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The most commmon problem with the Huck brakes Chevrolet used from 1936-1950 is the aluminum pistons in the iron wheel cylinders get rusted tight. This give a hard pedal and poor brakes.
I'll look more.

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Chevrolet sold the pistons years ago and then they also came with the wheel cyl. rebuild lits. Very difficult to find today. Best would be to have your present wheell Cyls. resleved with a stianless sleve and then rebuilt.

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i took a close look yesterday at the fuel gauge. When you turn the truck off it goes to the left as far as it can. When i turn the key on it does move up to the E but no further. Could it still be a power problem or the sending unit in tank?....BTW thanks for all the input guys, i really appreciate it.

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I can not open that but if they are made in the US OK.............China no.


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The pistons are inside the cylinder and basically disc shaped about 3/8" thick. The pins you referred to butt up to them . I looked at cylinders on the NAPA site and they are double the money of the O'REILLY ones but I could not find out where either are made. i am guessing that both are made in China.


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