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I am still trying to come up with the right paint code for the dash, garnish, steering wheel for my car. I know that in 41 two interior colors were used. One was for the Master Deluxe the other for the Special Deluxe. The Special Deluxe color is available from Chevs of the 40's but has a pinkish tint to it, the Master's has a more mocha tint.

This is my second attempt to find out what others have used for their repaint jobs so please reread my previous post before commenting. I am trying to do things right so please give me some help.

1941 garnish/dash color

Thanks, Mike

This is what the body shop has come up with for paint shades of mocha brown!!!

I just sent this request to TPC Global this morning. Does anyone Know of another potential paint source?

http://www.tcpglobal.com/s.nl?it=I&id=1&whence=&emailsent=T

The 41 Chevy passenger car had 2 different interior colors for its models. The Special Deluxe used one shade of brown with a pinkish hue for painting the dash, steering wheel, window garnish etc. Over this was a wood grained finish on many of its parts. The Master Deluxe had no wood graining and a mocha brown tint to its paint. I am trying to purchase this shade of paint in an acrylic enamel.

Thanks, Mike Buller
989-832-7634

Hi Mike,
Of the pictures you posted April 2014 the area under the steering column is the correct color. I’m not sure about the back of the ash tray, it looks a little brown on my monitor. If you still have those samples try to bring them back with some fine rubbing compound. I would describe the color as a medium brown with a slight orchid (purplish-pink) cast it also has a fine metallic . With a good sample any auto paint supplier should be able to match it for you. The painter at your body shop should be able to as well. And your on the right track with TCP Global they can match it and send a sample for approval.
If you no longer have those samples I had the PPG store match it for me in two stage Shop Line. I could send you a wet or sprayed out sample of the base coat.
The tan on the window frame is actually the base or background color that is applied before the wood grain.
I hope this helps, Jay

Hi Jay,

Is the steering wheel the same color as the dash? I have two wheels, one has two spokes (Special Deluxe) the other 3 (Master Deluxe). The two spoke wheel is the color I believe is the base coat for wood grained interior parts and parts that are not wood grained. The Master Deluxe color does not have a pinkish tint to it. I am beginning to think the Master Deluxe color is closest to what Gene calls mocha, the color of coffee with a little cream in it!!!

I got a call from TPC Global today. They would like me to send them a part with the color of paint I am looking to match. Unfortunately, the only part I have might be the steering wheel which has very little color left on it.

Has anyone ever had any luck contacting our archive/library for assistance with restoration. Doesn't the VCCA or Chevy have an archive for locating this type of info???

Thanks, Mike

P.S. Does anyone have a list of members that own 41 Master Deluxe models???

P.S. The more I compare the one piece of garnish I have which is pictured in my above post (the one with the paint matching dots on it). I think it has the pinkish tint to it. The side that shows on the interior looks like it was wood grained??? I will post a picture of it tomorrow.

Any thing that is not wood grained on a Master Deluxe is the brown color. This would include the dash, steering wheel, shift lever, steeing column. etc.

For the Special Deluxe it is Rose Biege.

Why do you suppose that molding had that center section painted like shown. After all, it is the back side. Do you think the whole backside was painted the center color. Then the center was taped and the two opposing sides painted the base color of the wood grain. I can't figure why it is like it is.

41 interior

Gene, how does this interior rate?

Ruscar, The 41 pictured has all the interior painted correctly but on my monitor it still needs a touch of purple and a little metallic. The wood grain is right and the tan stripe on the door garnish is correct. It should have a black floor mat without carpet inserts and the seat cloth is not right, but nether of those are available.

I think there were 22 pieces I painted for a region member's business coupe.

May or may not help you out, but there are RGB analyzing apps for smartphones.

Can use the phone's camera to get the RGB values of paint in different lights, use those numbers to narrow down the choices out there, and local paint shops should be able to punch the numbers in their system to find a very close match.

Of course, the catch is that you need sunlight to get the most accurate shade. I took the glove box door off my '38 and removed the chrome trim to expose the un-faded portion and used that as a sample.

All I see is the exterior???

41carguys dash looks most correct considering screen colors, etc.

All, When I took apart the dash from my 41 Special Deluxe convertible it had the tan pink paint on the bottom under the steering column bracket that matched very closely to that available from Chev's of the 40's. Under the edges of the instrument panel however, was a tan brown color that the wood graining on the upper dash was applied over. My opinion is that the entire dash was initially painted that tan brown color as a starting point and then the wood graining and tan pink applied. I also am of the opinion that the tan brown was the same color as the dash in a Master Deluxe that I once owned.

In order to match the tan brown base color I used the Dupont Spectramaster SOLID Custom Paint Chip Color Library Book that our local Dupont paint supplier has in their paint room. The book has hundreds of solid color paint chips with a hole in each one so it can be placed over the original paint as a matching tool. Color number YS231 in the color book was a close match to the original tan brown base color. Much to my surprise, it is the same color Grain-It Technologies recommends for use with their 41 Chevrolet dash graining kit. Although I had YS231 mixed as a base color since it was going under wood graining, it can be mixed as single stage enamel.

If anyone cares to see what the Dupont book looks like, there is one for sale on EBay currently at a price that will scare you!

Here is a close up of the base color on a 41 dash.


Mike

Thanks Mike,

What a beautiful job you have done on your wood graining. The base color looks identical/very close to the color I am trying to match. Little by little my color conundrum seems to be getting solved.

Gene, what do you think of Mike's base color? Do you remember it being darker???

Thanks, Mike

Mike (minetto) I was hoping you'd add your expertise to this thread. That's the best 41 re-grained dash I've seen, congratulations on a job well done! I can't wait to try it myself. The base color is still too light for the master deluxe dash and it has a fine metallic. Good advice to using the standard color chips that's how I matched the cameo cream on my current project.
Jay

Attached are a few pictures of the dash from my 41 convertible that I have kept unrestored for reference purposes. The original wood graining under the ash tray is very evident and depicts the color, detail and angle of the grain. In addition, the original tan brown base color can be seen to the left of the instrument panel hole. Note the dabs of Chev' of the 40's tan pink below the original tan brown paint for reference. This same photo also shows where the wood graining stopped and the paint started on the vertical axis. The original tan pink color can be seen adjacent to the radio opening. Both of the original colors appear to be solid. Mike

Note should be made that the convertible was a Special Deluxe. The dash was NOT the same for the Master Deluxe.

Had a good day following up leads I got this weekend. I located the Dupont SpectraMaster Paint Chip Color Library book at my local Auto Value store and found a perfect match for the color on the back of a wood grained front window divider. The second picture shows the match. It looks a shade of green because of the florescent lights. I tried taking the picture outside but the natural light produced too much glare. I could live with this color but still am not sure it is not the color that the Special Deluxe used.

I am wondering if the Master Deluxe color is the same as the Special Deluxe color minus the pink!!!

Hope to follow up some more leads before deciding on the color.

Thanks, Mike

P.S. For $20 the paint store will make me up a pint to test before I make my final choice.






This is a picture that was emailed to me could if be the correct Master Deluxe color?

NO!

Here is a digital picture I took yesterday of a hard copy picture of the Master Deluxe coupe I had several years ago. The dash and garnish moldings had original paint. Only the ash tray was redone.

Mike, If you want I'll send you the hard copy. Mike

You can't argue with original. Minetto's coupe is what you want to match. The color on the W/S divider is the wood grain base coat and is lighter than the dash.
Jay

Wonder why he chose to install the 1946-48 radio? There are 4 different Models of 1941 radios, all of which are excellent to use in the 1941 car.

Because in 1981 I couldn't afford to change it!

I can relate to that.

So are we in agreement that Minetto's color is correct? Now I will work on finding the formula.

All help is appreciated.

Thanks, Mike

All three are so close. Wait and get Jay's sample he said he would send you. Have it matched in the paint of your choice and paint. Done.

Their is no formula.

So...is the 40 wood graining the same as the 41 ?? don`t know if this picture would help...