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Anybody know this car?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-O...;item=201159534331&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Listed in Muncie IN as a 1917...Looks like a 20-22 490, am I right? Reverse curve front fenders, 4 lug wheels, etc. A vin number 3A77527 is listed can anyone de-code?
Thanks for any info, Jay

It is a '18 or later as the steering gear is on the frame not on the body.

The adjustable rockers, on the engine make it later than mid 1921. The 4 lug wheels are only used on 1922 and later, but may be a replacement. I could not see any engine casting dates. Probably could contact the seller and ask for the casting dates from the head and block.
1922 serial numbers in the 3A series where 3A53242 to 3A86294 , so would make it a 1922 model.

You are right. According to Clymer's "Early Chevrolet history" the Serial Number says it is a 1922. The four lug Wheels were new 1922 to fit the new steel felloes. The top bows looks like the new 1922 model, but the top looks more like 1920-21 or earlier, as there are no Gypsy Back Curtains (new 1922). Also the handbrake (emergency brake lever) was new 1922.

Stiff steering most certainly depends on the zink alloy bushings, expanding and cracking by age. On my -22 it was not easy to pull the steering shaft out from the tube. I had the bushings polished five yeras ago, and so far it works fine.

The oil can is nice, but I don't think it is the original model.

Also the colors are nice, but I don't think any 490 left any plant with these colors.

Thanks for the info and comments guys. So it's what I thought, 5 years newer than listed. Seller says low reserve... I think the opening bid of $8000 is already too much, considering it's condition.
Jay

This car cannot be a 1917 model, but more likely a 1922 if the hand brake and brake pedals are original. Most of the details are from after 1917 (headlight mounting, angle of front window, front fender shape). The engine has a water pump and no thermo siphon system. The oil can and holder is not correct for a car before 1920, as to my opinion. It would help to know the ID number of engine and flywheel. I think I will ask for it.

The serial number on the flywheel outer rim should be the 3A77527 already mentioned, and should be the same as the serial number on the dash plate.

The engine casting number is also quoted as 327773 (misreading the first 3 as a B) and a casting date of D 18 2 confirming 1922 manufacture.

Here is the answer from the seller: This car has an Indiana title, and it is titled as a 1917. We found numbers on the engine block that are D 18 2. directly below those numbers are B27773. We found numbers on the flywheel edge on one side was 14, and on the other 28.

Yep , the correct casting number for a 1922 engine block is 327773 and not B27773