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I wonder where Glenn found the model 33/311 ?????

It would have to be a HOLDEN GM model designation, that Glenn found the information on.

I have no idea what history has been saved as too production numbers and model designations of Auzzie built cars of this era.

I myself have authentic Canadian production numbers for 1934 1935 from oshawa ontario Canada plant. In this information is the production of domestic, plus EXPORTs in left and right hand drive, plus CKD = complete knock downs , frame driveline assemblies.

When you put that info on the non stock plate firewall of the car, he obviously knew something we don't , or is info that is not something we have access too. ????

mike lynch

Hi Mike,
I am currently rebuilding a '33 in Knysna South Africa which was built here at the General Motors Plant in Port Elizabeth. However I am currently in Johannesburg on route to Zambia so will get my daughter to photograph the ID Tags which I will post.
Errol Scanlen. Scanni

WELCOME ....ERROL to this 33 chevrolet conversation. If your car was stamped out in australia by GM holden it could be a master series 112" wheelbase or a 107" wheelbase standard series.

If your car was stamped out in the USA or most likely Canada and the components shipped to SOUTH AFRICA for assembly it can only be a 112" wheelbase master series. Because your part of the british commonwealth most likely your car was stamped out here.

I assume your car is RIGHT HAND DRIVE. ??

will be watching for the pictures and you can also send a set direct to me at mike350@rogers.com

mike lynch

Although it may be difficult to ascertain whether Glenn Stauffers car was the one that Duane Steel imported I would like to bring up a couple of thing to think about. Duane would have got the car in late 1973 and probably sold it in 1974. Glenn had the car restored by 1977 so it does fit into the right time frame. I am not sure how the American titles system works but wonder if it is possible to trace its previous owners this way. I have a magazine photo of the car Duane imported taken in 1972 which shows the car fitted with rear vision mirrors fitted to both front fenders which would have been held on with screws.Assuming this was the car Glenn restored he would have welded up the holes if he used the fenders that were on the car.Maybe the present owner could look underand see if there is any sign of these welds. The idea of this car being imported when new does not add up. Why would they import a car for evaluation when they already had a phaeton in the master series? Th e 1933 Stds were not released until July 12th 1933 in Australia. Assuming they started building the bodies in June it would probably be August before it arrived on the east coast Of the USA. Correct me if I am wrong but I am of the impression the 1934 cars were released in September of 1934 and the bodies would have started being built at least as early as August. Far too late to evaluate an overseas car. Considering the extreme rareness of these cars in Australia I very much doubt that more than 1 or 2 made it to the States. If this is not the car Duane imported does anyone know its whereabouts?

Glen Stauffer must have had access to information this club does not ? Individuals may have information they are not willing to share with others ? Who knows. I also wondered when i saw it.

Re model # 33-311
On the GM canada production sheets i have for 1934 1935.

Lets take a for instance , the sheets show MODEL No. 246 L D ( left hand drive ) is a 4 passenger regular roadster with rumble seat. Also Model No. 246 R D ( Right hand drive ) is a 4 passenger regular roadster .
Note the lack of a FISHER JOB NUMBER, because these were not made by fisher body but by chevrolet body works. Both the standard series DC-EC roadster and phaetons/tourings were made NOT fisher body.

Because GM HOLDEN AUSTRALIA, not a lot of info is produced/retained that i am aware of regarding model numbers , job numbers and production figures. If that info is available i would like to see it posted here or a link to a site that contains the correct information.

I have seen quite a few 33--35 auzzie chev roadsters and tourings sell or be offered on ebay, that info would be useful to those people owning those cars.

I know that GLEN RARICK in USA told me not that long ago , he has a 33 standard either roadster or touring from auzzie. Sent him an email and am awaiting a reply.
He also has a 33 std 3 window fisher body coupe he re-did a few years ago.

mike lynch

Mike
I think "Jack39Roadster" or "CJP29" would be the best to answer your questions. I have been told GMH had a fire in the records department in the mid 1950's so the only information would have to be from another scource.
Tony

So with the big fire in the auzzie records office kinda puts the kibosh on needed info and everything becomes guesstimates.

Anyway Glen Rarick in NY responds that he also has a HOLDEN built 33 standard touring right hand drive. Also wants to know if i want another project.?????? So glen has his for sale.

Me , i got my hands full with SHAZZBOT my supposed to be 34 std roadster assembled in argentina, that turns out to be a 1935 standard roadster. Same car except for rad ornament ,frame has x member and 35 motor.

mike lynch

Three series of 1933 Chevrolets were originally shown around 31st of March by Larke, Neave and Carter , the metropolitan Chevrolet dealers in Australia,then later in the year around July / August, the Advertised models switched to Standard And Master models only.

Well , there was definatly 2 of them 1933 standard phaetons auzzie built Bill Staley of Ill. owns the former glen stauffer 33 standard phaeton and brought into the USA .

Emailing glen rarick of NY state, glen says he has a 33 holden auzzie RHD standard series touring. So there you have it, there is 2 of them in usa. Is there any more 33 std phaetons or roadsters.????????????

Missing burned up production records in australia makes it difficult to talk about these cars.

mike lynch

Mike
Yes the fire does make collecting correct information very difficult including the paint formula for my 38. At this stage it appears noone has the code stamped listed and therefore no positive formula available.
Tony

Hey Joe, here is a whole thread about 1933 Chevrolet standard tourings including the one Glen Rarick restored > So one in usa does exist

mike lynch