VCCA Home Forums TECHNICAL - 1945 AND EARLIER 1929-1932 Canadian serial and production numbers

Years ago (on this forum) I was directed to a chap in the UK who was collecting data on Canadian serial numbers, and he was able to confirm that my '30 Coupe was indeed assembled here in Regina.
Does anyone have that contact -- I can't seem to dig it up anywhere?
Many thanks ...

You may be thinking of the late David Hayward. He passed away about a year ago. David went by the Chat name of "Oracle". He and Ken Kaufmann had a site on Hemmings which had lots of info on Chevrolet production numbers. There was a great loss of knowledge about Chevs with his passing.

Dan R

What info are you now looking for on your 1930?

Yes -- I remember that name -- David Hayward.
Thanks Dan for that info -- and I'm sorry to hear of his passing -- he seemed like a very kind gentleman.

Brewster, I'm looking for production numbers -- as in how many 1930 coupes were turned out in the Regina plant.

I'm just curious, as mine is one of how many made for that year?

You need to seriously consider the odds of getting this info from me! I have some correspondence between David and my Dad from the late 1990's when he was getting info via snail mail. I believe my Dad may have been sending him stuff from a contact with GM of Canada. All of the info that I have is about 1930! The part about the sport coupes is the only body style info there is! It looks like he was also collecting body and motor #'s of known cars, and establishing production dates.

Here is what is typed in the sheets I have. I'm unable to expand on it, as I only have what is in front of me, and he has corrected some numbers from the GM of Canada guy, and I am unable to verify that his corrections are correct, or where he got the other info...

"Information from GM of C:
982 Sport Coupes built in 1930
809 in Oshawa
173 in Regina

1930 Production says GM of C
17,936 built in Oshawa domestic sales
5,436 built in Regina domestic sales
5,000 units approximately for export (to NZ not Australia)

But in fact it was (cars) 1930 model year
21,196 Oshawa/Walkerville, so 3,960 were for export?
5,437 Regina which were all domestic sales
9,297 trucks were built both plants:
400? heavy duty
2,200 Regina
6,700 Walkerville?

35,930 vehicles actually produced January to October 1930 (1930 Model year) Car production was 27,333 and truck production was 12,439 Chevrolet/Heavy duty trucks and 1,039 GMC in 1930 Calendar year
Engines produced: 36,309 according to numbers available.
GM of Canada figures say 27,333 cars were produced and 12,439 trucks in 1930 Calendar year but Regina closed in August 1930! This figure included some of the Oshawa production for 1931, of 17,000 or so 1931 models from November 1930."

Then there is a list of serial #'s from various Canadian and NZ 1930's. I hope this is a help to you. I'm not sure where David's notes and info all went upon his passing, but the info I have on Canadian Motor Serial #'s is all typed in a spread sheet along with notes to mark where he had questions (as of 1998) Hopefully someone has all of the info...

Bruce

Great details Brewster. It is always a challenge to differentiate between production in terms of model (1930 AD) and calendar year, not to mention actual sales. A new model (say 1930 AD's) usually began serious production and rolling off assembly line for distribution sometime in October/November of 1929, first sales perhaps november/december 1929, and while production might end about 12 months later (fall 1930), sales might drift into 1931. So total model production (all AD's), usually does not jive with production for 1930 calender year, and actual sales may be a different number as well. Same goes for engines, since each vehicle had an engine but extras engines would have been made as well. Simplified, it seems 173 was the number he was looking for!

It is unimaginable the amount of information available to David and Ken. A great deal of the information was lost when David died, and also a great loss from Ken when he was unceremoniously removed from the G&D along with some other extremely knowable members. Ah! so is life.

Brewster -- Wow !!

And many, many thanks for that info !
That's incredible -- and exactly what I was looking for.

And thank you for typing all that in -- it's appreciated very much !

The s/n of mine is 458639 -- David had told me that this car was indeed made in Regina, and I'm trying to figure out just where in the production run it was -- as in 245th car of 900 built, etc.

The stamped no. on the engine is 269801.

If there would be an easy way to get a peek at your spreadsheet
of engine no's -- if not, I understand fully.

Thanks again -- all the info truly is appreciated!

Blessings.

PM sent...

I KNEW I HAD A LINK TO DAVID HAYWARDS INFO STORED IN MY FAVORITES.


http://home.znet.com/c1937Prod.htm
the above link works when i send it to myself in an email and its exactly how i typed it, yet it keeps saying its a 404 error.
my favorites link takes me too that same site as above. NO IDEA why it will not work typed in here.

http://www.home.znet.com/c1937Prod.htm DOESN'T WORK


Once on that page i also found this link which did not work

http://www.chevytalk.com/GMhistory/index1.html DOESN'T WORK

your going to have to make sense of all the production numbers printed on those pages.

IF YOU WANT THAT LINK EMAIL ME AT
mike350 at rogers dot com

mike lynch

This may help. I found that some of the sites' URL listings have been changed but not updated. For instance the following will yield the 404 Webpage not found error:

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/index1.html

Removing /clubsites from the URL will work:

http://clubs.hemmings.com/chevytalk/index1.html

Any links within this webpage that contain /clubsites will also give the 404 error unless /clubsites is removed from the URL.

Happy Motoring,

Dan

Dan,
Many thanks for the info. I have been trying for over a year to find where that information went. Even tried emailing directly to one of the of the site persons without success.

The corrected address brings up the web page with listings. However, when I click on any of the individual listings I get the error message and have to delete the "clubsites/" from the address for it to come up. Is there some way we can get hemmings or somebody else to correct the links so we don't have to remember how to get to the information? At least the information is not lost, yet.

The above and my tries in the past to access the vast amount of data on Chevrolet History causes me to be concerned that it may be lost in the future if not on a more reliable site. Is this something that the VCCA needs to address and pay for the service space so it is not lost if something might happen to the remaining author?

Thanks so much Mike -- I appreciate that -- will email you.
Len

Thanks Mike -- will email you.
Len

the correct GM of Oshawa Ontario Canada production numbers for your
1935 chevrolet standard EC series coupe chevrolet
" production number 12-07 2 passenger regular coupe {solid quarter } FISHER JOB # 35-1207 , produced for domestic production 595, for export 1 LHD

chevrolet production # 12-07XL 2 passenger regular coupe { solid quarter } FISHER JOB # 35-1207 **for export only ** 1 LHD, 8 RHD

I also have a 35 std coupe and a 35 std roadster

mike

It is interesting to note that even if the Regina plant closed in 1930 the firewall plates still showed it in 1934.

That may have to do with an office being there.