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On a hot day a temp reading of just past mid scale is not bad, as long as it stays constand while you are at normal driving speed.
Have you checked out the ignition timing and the working of the vacuum advance? This can effect the engine running temperature.

is the fan shroud the same on 235 cars and trucks ?? i can make one if they are the same no problem my son can powder coat it be great

What makes you think you need a fan shroud?

Will dont know ,, i thought all had a shroud , i figured it would help, i am going to take the rad out and take it in and have it check out flow and all,,and go from there,maybe i need a water pump , i am going to check it also with a inferred gauge too
no i haven't done anything with timing i tried to with a timing light but had no luck its hard to see the little dot through the hole on bell housing

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Well I hope you aren't chasing a ghost, there may be nothing wrong with your car. Is your car airconditioned?
Are you running a 50% water, 50% coolant mix? has the radiator boiled over, are you loseing a lot of coolant?.... Remember that a car without a overflow tank should not stay 100% full, due to expansion, I say my car is ok if I can touth the fluid 3 or 4 inches down in the radiator, after a 45 minute or one hour drive. Maybe the temp gauge is off?

No a/c, and running about 50- 50 never boiled over , i did see it puke once thats when i heard a few more noises ,,, but all in all i can handle the temp thing, could be be abad water pump, we changed one on my sosn 65 stang and the impellars was rusted just about off we did a water pump and a northern all alum rad with elect fan and he has all guages and he ran the other day and he was 205 but it was really hot i say 97 or close , but whats gets me is the rattle noise i have right befor the shift from low to high ,i guess it will worse before it goes out ,i just want to drive this car, i love driving it ,, i am going to check it with a temp gun , when it stops rainning , we went from 2 weeks od 100 deg now to rain for 4 days lol
Ohh were is your gauge when normal ?

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My 53 runs about in the center of the gauge, the 68 does not have a gauge an idiot light.

well i will check mine again hope it was just the weather real hot was the problem ..
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been looking and trying to figure out the timing ,, i see the dizzy moves when you give it gas ,,i guess there is a bolt or screw that you loosen to adjust it , i know there is a dot on fly wheel and you see through the hole in bell housing is there another way to do this i can't see the dot for some reason

You may need to slowly turn the flywheel or flexplate until the dot shows up in the window. Then mark it with a dab of white paint so you can more easily see it.

update:
took betsey for a date tonight ( food and a movie) worries me about leaving her in parking lot while in movie it was great , ran a little past halfway on temp gauge going down there but it was kind a warm , coming home it was a little below half bujt it was 10 pm too ,, so i think i will get the rad boiled and cleaned and maybe do a water pump , we did a water pump on a toyota once and half the blades was gone ,, and i will check the timming out too
thanks guy for putting up with me

I doubt that you will find the 235 too simular inside to the Toyoto. I think that you want to get inside the 235 and see what makes it tick, good luck.

i am just talking about the impellers could be rusted away ??? never know

never seen that in a 235, only a seal ogoing out and leaking or a bearing, bushing squealing.

update:
her is what i have now on temps
top of rad 148
stat housing 171
sending unit 192
top of head 209
front of rad 142
think i will get the rad boiled and cleaned and add a new water pump and check again what you think ???

update:
the rad was only 50% they got it to 85 they said , so that should help now i am going to replace the water also while the rad is out in doing so i found this


looks like it wouldn't been long before it went so i am going to replace it if i rebuild this motor i can always re use it once i get it in i am going to do more temp reading and see

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well i got a new water pump but the heater port is too small its a reman water pump , i am guessing it can off something else so i had them to order another one and what that is , the new one is 3/8 pipe thread and i needed 1/2 go figure , i cant wait to see what my new temp is

let you know

well been driving all weekend ans seems like the temp is a little better, it still gets a little hotter when sitting idling for a long period of time , that could be from the low oil pressure , but all in all it does run cooler all the time it stayed straight up and down ,( but the time i was idling for a long time , the other day it was just hot too , alot of my trouble is low oil pressure i guess, if i had better pressure i am guessing it would run cooler ,, winter time i will rebuild it and stay with the 235 unless something happens

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Would a 235 from a truck that had a 3 speed tranny fit into my car i could get it now and slowly rebuild it now

It would need the boses for the side motor mount brackets to bolt it in place..

What are they?

Does your car have a fan shroud? You might also want to find another fan and compare it to yours and make sure that the blades are not bent or even possibly the fan could be on backwards?

Never thought about that,,, i will check it out,, i say its becaue of bad bearings ?

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The 6 cyl. never ad a shroud. The fan is unnecessary over 40 MPH

Would it be too abnormal to remove the fan add a electric fan? W did on my sons mustang it works great, but its a alumi rad with elect fan
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