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Hey all,
A buddy of mine swears by the Frantz Oil filter and his oil really backs it up. I was just wondering what you all thought about them. Have any of you used them? Can I just put a roll of TP in the original style oil filter or do I need to buy the Frantz unit?

Thanks,
-Davis38

Those filters do work but really need a full flow system with a lot of pressure. I feel it would be a waste of time and money on a partial flow system.
Tony

Charlie

Time and Money...? Heck, it's only toilet paper...!
I'm kidding, but perhaps it is time to leave this "novelty" of past, behind...Or in the loo

I have seen them years ago but I don't understand????? toilet paper is made to melt and go away when it gets wet so it don't clog up your plumbing. SOOO what does it do in the oil galleries in your engine??? is there millions of paper flakes floating around in your engines oil passages????
Am I missing something here????......ED

That's the first thing I thought of too...Toilet paper must not have been so "soluble" back then, I just can't remember...

I do recall I thought it a "hoakey" idea then, too...

The paper doesnt seem to dissolve in OIL as I regularly serviced 1 vehicle and the paper was still all there at each service. There was a mesh frame around the paper which holds it in place.
Tony

The oil flow is across the length of the roll, not through to the center. This gives 4 1/2 " or so of filtration. I believe it is known as a "depth" filter and it will not pass oil at a high enough rate to function as a full full filter.

Hi
I am in the USA.
I have been using a version of a toilet paper oil filter for the last 10 years, not a Frantz.
They work quite well.
I understand there is a bigger version available in Australia. Frantz offered them for sale in the USA for a while.
with little interest. Now discontinued by Frantz,
The Frantz oil filter seems pricey.
For an engine you will keep in use for a long time I highly recommend them.
I recently transferred my filter from a 1985 Mercedes diesel to a 1991 chev 6.2 liter diesel.

People are used to seeing toilet paper dissolve in water! Oil is not water!
The paper roll stays intact in the oil filter and it does absorb water. The paper roll does not shed any particles.

You can safely extend your oil changes when using the paper filter.
There are those who do not change their oil at all except for changing the roll every 1000 miles. The filter takes about a quart to refill so make up oil is added.

I installed my paper filter using a "Tee" fitting at the oil pressure switch. This keeps the stock full flow filter on the engine in use.
The oil pressure remained the same after the install.
My lifters were noisy when I installed the TP filter.
I suspect they were plugged with soot from previous owners not changing the oil when recommended.

The only problem with the filter on new cars is the lack of room under the hood.
Some have installed the filters in the trunk and ran long oil hoses to the trunk.
Utility trucks can mount them on the frame if no room in the engine compartment.

My only problem has been finding the recommended single ply TP with the right size core. In the future I will probably order the TP from Frantz.
The Frantz oil filter site explains all much better than I have. http://www.frantzoil.com/home.html

I have not bought a Frantz filter but I would reccomend them.
I use a modified Motor Gard air filter. The mods needed include replacing the plastic parts with high heat replacements so I can't recommend them.

Good luck
Dennis

Chevys have always been my favorite but the new chevys might come from Korea or Japan.
Not the same but probably good cars that would benefit from the TP filters.

A vehicle I used to service regularly (vehicle owned by a travelling salesman) had both a TP filter followed by a centrifugal type.
Even though the TP was changed about every 6000 miles the centrifugal unit still had a collection to be cleaned out, both of these units were in addition to the full flow filter.
Tony

I can't quite believe all this interest in filters. Not just one on a car but two and, sometimes, three? Did I read that right? That's like compulsive behavior of some kind.

I heard of TP filters years ago and discarded them as just another gimmick, especially on a 216 or 235. Nowadays, I doubt you can find a roll of TP that has suitable in inside and outside diameters, i.e., enough to be effective however small the effectiveness would even be. What in the world is going on here?

You know good and well that whilst your are changing the single-sheet roll of TP you might as well go ahead and change the oil, too. And, clean the centrifical filter and the regular carterage ones, also, if so eqipped.

Well, too each his own but as for me it will be a change of oil with no filter at each 1K miles as long as I own a an engine that will need a new set of tires before the oil could trickle out the block's open oil filter oriface.

I think a magnet in the bottom of the oil pan would be more effective than a TP oil filter on those 215's and 235's. Mercy!

Charlie