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I'd put the phaeton at 1930 also. That looks like a shock absorber under the front fender.

Dan

Thanks Dan!

I'll put the others online tomorrow (it's 23:02 here, so it's time to go to bed :).

Thanks again!

Bill, I've got your test mail, but no notification... I'll put my public e-mailaddress in my profile tomorrow and see what will happen then.

29 disk wheels

On which one?

Hi!

As promised above, some new pics and questions.

I would be pleased to know the model year and body styles.

12: This is what I think a 1929 or 1930 phaeton. According to the registration number, it would be 1929, but in Holland this service is not always reliable. Is someone able to confirm or disconfirm this year?



13. This can only be aa coach (2-doors, 4 windows). I have this car listed as 1930, but I'm absolutely not sure. Who knows the model year?



14: A sedan. In 1929 there was just the 4-door "standard" sedan that is a likely candidate. The Imperial sedan looks different.
If it is a 1930 though, it can be a
- special sedan, but this car and the car below does not have a spare tire in the fender, so they cannot be the special sedan, right?
- Club sedan. If I do understand the difference well, a club sedan is a 4-door sedan without the rear quarter window; so no window after the second door.
- "Standard" Sedan. In that case, both (this and the following) photo show "standard" sedans.
So, are number 14 and/or 15 standard sedans?



15: And another sedan, I hope it is possible to tell the 1929 and 1930 apart from the rear...?


Thanks, you're great!

It is simple telling a 29 from a 30. The 29 has an oval dash that is removable and gas gauge in the gas tank.
30 does not have removable dashboard the gauges are cut into the sheat metal including the gas gauge.

I believe he has had most of these photos several years and probably cannot remember the dash configuration.

True, these pics were taken over a 10 year period. Many of these cars take part in rallies and so there is not even a chance to take a close look or a picture of the dash :).

Nobody a clue?

Job, I'm planning to visit The Netherlands in May. Do you know of any good auto museums in your country?

Yes, definitely. There are a few museums that are worth a visit.
1: The Louwman Collection. If you come over, you have to visit this collection. Mister Louwman has had a Toyota dealership in the seventies and has collected cars ever since. If a museum go bankrupt here, there is a reasonable chance Louwman will buy the complete collection and sell what he does not want to exhibit. In this way, he bought the Rosso Bianco collection in Germany and the Autotron in Holland. His museum has moved from Raamsdonksveer to The Hague last year and I have not been at the new location yet. It is really a museum you may not miss! They say it is one of the best in Europe and I think that's no nonsense!
2: A smaller museum I have not been to yet is in the North of the Netherlands, Joure in the province Friesland. I have seen a few of their cars exhibited or driven in rallies and they were promising. I think their collection is a lot smaller than Louwman's and the quality may be less, but as I said, I have not been there yet.
3: A more specialized museum is the Ford museum, but in the US you have the Ford Museum in Dearborn and if you have been there, this museum in Holland may be a disappointment. I have been there (in the building) to make use of the toilets but I have not seen their collection irl. The museum is situated in Hillegom, between the tulip fields (if you visit Holland in May, the fields may be beautiful and colorful!

Please let me know if you need some additional info!

Can anybody confirm the last two are "standard" sedans?

You know it is really hard to tell from the photos provided but it seems to me that the Phaeton is a '29 because the windshield does not look like it folds down as they did in '30. Is that correct? The other three all look like '30 models as the windshields look like they slope, but again it is hard to tell from the photos. The white sedan looks like it could be a deluxe with the side running lights and cowl band. Nice photos anyway.

Thanks a lot!

Could you please play this trick on the last three 1929-1930 cars in my archives too? Would be great.


The coach, International or Universal?



The sedan, International or Universal



The coupe below is from 1929, I'm sure. So just enjoy the picture :).


Thanks in advance!

The coach is neither. It is a "National" since it is a 1928 model.

The sedan is an "International".

Thanks! Many thanks!

You bet....and glad to help out.

By the way, wasn't the above information in the book "Standard Catalog of American Cars"?

Let me clarify something. I did not tell you before because I do not want to sound pathetic. I am partially sighted (a rare form of autosomal dominant optic atrophy inherited from my mother) and as a result detail differences are hard to spot for me.
All photos are taken by my father and the archive is owned by me. I am a perfectionist. That's the reason I ask for help or confirmation sometimes. I like to learn about cars and their history.
So to answer your question, there is a short paragraph in the catalog on changes per year. I checked all my pics with someone who is sighted but she did not see it was a '28 instead of a '29.

I now see what has happend with the National coach. I accidentally mixed two pictures up.



This is the one. Is this an International or a Universal coach?

Thanks!

All 1929 models are International.

All 1930 models are Universal.

The vehicle above appears to be a 1929, therefore, it would be an International.

Thanks! Is this a standard coach? In Ford terms, this roof treatment is called a Victoria I think... Or is this standard for this year's coach?

Best, Job

That body style is not considered a Victoria for either the Model A Ford or the Chevrolet. The Victoria body style is completely different for both the Ford and the Chevrolet.

Thanks, Job. The Louwen Museum has a wonderful website.
http://www.louwmanmuseum.nl/asp/app...;vocasq=2&taalcd=nl&menutype=sub
They have a picture of each car in the collection along with information on each car. The early cars are really beautiful and there is a lot of interesting informatioon on each car. Unless you can read Dutch you have to use Google Translate in order to read the information. Unfortunately there are no Chevrolets! Now all I have to do is convince the boss that we need to visit this museum.