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What type of jack was used for the 32 and where was it stored in the car?also what about the lug wrench?

Several similar screw jacks were used. Similar because the same style jack was used for 1930 to 1933 and had either a square or slotted ended folding handle. Until 1932 and probably up to 1933 a wire wheel lug nut wrench was used. It was replaced by a socket end on the starting crank for a few years.

Thanks Chipper-I think its time to give up the 2-ton hyd. jack I've been lugging and make room for passengers in my sedan.

Oh, sorry but forgot to tell that jack and other tools were stored under the seat on most models. Coupes and roadsters in trunk or behind seat. Trucks behind or next to seat.

Hey Chipper Dipper! Even though the jack used in 1930 was a screw jack, it was different than the screw jack used in 1932.

Not so fast o'puppy dog. Take a look at the 1930 "Check and Double Check" filmstrip. What jack is shown in the photo? Yup, it is not the same one shown in the Engineering Features book, hence the dilemma. Which is the correct one? Or are both possibly correct? Then how about the riveted versus crimped jacks? And the square or slotted?

Then look at the part numbers in the books from 1930 to 1933 and beyond. What do they indicate?

Hold on there Dippy Chippy! The filmstrip "Check and Double Check" is a 1931 film, not a 1930 film! Have you been hitting the "Kool Aide" again after your doctor told you not to?

Can someone post a picture of this jack and wrench and any tools. Or can you send a link to a site that shows them. My 32 coupe has a pan under the seat to store the jack and tools. Also when do you get your VCCA # all I have received to date is a badge?

Good to get info on jack's -tools and etc.I agree a picture would be great-In regards to VCCA# I recently posed that same question thru an email addressed to the membership secretary@vcca.org.i got a reply back from Jean Fink that it should never take longer than three weeks to get your number.Like yourself some applicants had received a membership card without the number.Mine had a number but no name.Jean advised to email her the name,city and state and she should be able to email the VCCA#.

I finally had a chance to check my film strips. "Double Check" is a 1931 film. I don't have a copy of "Check and Double Check" but my expert tool person indicates that it is a copyright 1930 film. The seat pictured in the photo with the tools in the under seat compartment appears to be a '30 seat as well. Then there are the part numbers listed in the '30 and later dated Parts Books that also suggest that the same jacks were supplied from 1930 until 1933 model years. On the other side is the Engineering Features book for 1930 that shows another style jack. Unfortunately not all items published in the internal engineering book are 100% correct for actual production vehicles. I am sure that they were slated for production when the book was put together (several months before actual production) but as the saying goes "S%!& happens". Let the discussion continue.

I don't have a copy of "Check and Double Check" but my expert tool person indicates that it is a copyright 1930 film."

Sorry Chippy Dippy, but your tool expert appears to be incorrect. "Check and Double Check" is indeed a 1931 film! The 1931 Service films started with Volume 3, Number 4, and "Check and Double Check" is Volume 3, Number 7. The film shows exterior and interior shots of a 1931 Special Sedan. It also shows some of the accessories for 1931, including the convex double face bar for the early 1931 bumper, and all kinds of other cool 1931 stuff as well.

The film, "Double Check", as you noted, is also a 1931 film and it is part of the Sales Managers Service Film series for 1931.

FYI, A very nice person who is attending GJ is going to take some pictures of a correct '32 jack and tools for me.

Once I get the pictures I will get happy to share them with anyone who wants them.

Thanks again to the kindness of the picture taker...

Louis,
How is that person going to know what the correct jack and tools are? Just because they are displayed in front of a 1932 Chevrolet does not make them "correct".

I assumed that this would be the best place to see the most correct vehicles in the VCCA.

I also assumed that there would be people at GJ (such as you) who would be able to verify items and help out their fellow club members who have questions. I assume at GJ there will be judges and a chief judge on the judging field and other experts in attendance to clear up any questions that might arise.

Vehicles being judged are the ones that interest me not the show cars or cars in the parking lot or flea market vendor items.

Are you saying that the vehicles and accessories being judged at GJ are not a good reference source for finding original items?

What would you suggest we do?

Louis C, remember about A.S.S.U.M.E. "Sometimes to assume is to err!"

This is an Anniversary Meet not a"real get down and get dirty" showing Show"!

What quality vehicles will be judged at GJ?

I did think GJ would be a 'top of the heap' showing in terms of quality vehicles, really sorry to learn that I was wrong.

louis, I am sure there will be some very top notch cars and many not so top notch.

One thing about this site is that this is as good a place as any to get the information you seek, there will always be diverse opinions as to what constitutes documentation, until we eventually get it all in the judging handbook and everyone trusts and believes in it. I used to believe the history books in school back when, until I read some recent editions.

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Gator: I'm with Chippy Dippy. If the dude taking the photos of the tools at the meet in GJ does not know what the correct jack looks like for 1932 or if he is not familiar with what the correct tools and the correct year application of each, then talking a lot of pictures is only going to cause more confusion and compound false beliefs as to what is correct. As Chipper said, just because the tools are displayed with the car does not make them correct or authentic.

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Amen, and after you wag the thing all the way back home to Tim-Buck-Too you will find the exact same model at the local junk emporium for 1/10th the price!!!
At least that has been my experiance...

Louis,
I think that you made another assumption. Yes, there will be some of the most correct of all restored Cheverolets. And yes, there will be some of the real experts. And then there will be those that are convinced and will try to convince others that they are experts or their vehicle is 100% correct. But it will be the wise one that will know the difference. And then there are judges or potential judges that are true experts on a particular year or model. It is a crap-shoot if they actually judge those particular vehicles. And then they have a 1 in 4 chance to judge tools so the odds that the tools will be accurately judged is not a sure thing.

Not only that but You are not allowed to judge a class or year that you or anyone in your family has entered in the Meet! That is smart, really smart!!!!

Is it possible for the "subject matter experts" for 29 through 32 to compile a few pictures to show us what the differences are. I my self will be going to IOLA in a few weeks and would like to find a jack and correct tools for my 32. I don't even know what one looks like.

Thanks

Original photos of all of the correct tools are almost as scarce as a snowball in Death Valley in August.

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This is giving us a great chance to help the mission of the club and all of us.

We can and should use this as a chance to clear up any confusion about the jack and tools. If we do this right we could clear up any other items that people are confused about by using Chatter and pictures and all of the experts here.

If pictures are taken of the jack and tools that are suppose to be correct for ’32 are posted here or even sent as attachments to several of the experts on ’32 to look at then they could tell us which ones are correct for ’32 and these correct pictures could then be posted on Bill’s ’32 site and here.

This would be a great chance to extent the mission of our VCCA of keeping vehicles original and a another way of showing the national powers that be of the usefulness of Chatter and the web.

This is something that could be done for all years and all vehicles wherever there is a question that needs clarification.

This would be a great service, a win-win for all.

Here is a photo of two of the jacks that were supplied for 1930 - 1933 Chevrolets. The old dogface may disagree that either jack is correct for 1930 but my research and research of others supports them for at least late vehicles. One of the two pictured jacks has been found in 1930 cars with other tools that are generally considered correct. It is clear that the jacks are correct for 1931-32 and early '33 cars and 1/2 ton trucks. So at least you 1931-32 owners will know what to look for.