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#482513 06/07/23 04:45 PM
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Hi, I have a 1932 chev coupe.
My grandfather bought it in the 50s.
It hasn't run since the 70s.

The car is a survivor.
1 coat of paint.
Original brass tag on the 212 carb.

I've been slowly going through it, and am almost ready to try turning it over.

Unfortunately my father can't seem to locate the key.

A local locksmith has told me if I bring him the ignition he could get an impression and cut me a key.

After going through a couple forums, it doesn't appear that there is an easy way to remove the ignition without the key.

Hoping someone might have some insight, and advice as to how they would approach my situation.

Thank you for your time and any information you might provide.

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32barnfind, the '34 Master has the four-digit key code on the shaft of the locking door handle. I don't know if the '32 has it there also. Someone else may know. It would be easier to got that code and have a locksmith cut you a new key.


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if it is the original electrolock there is a code as noted on the tumbler, if the local locksmith looks it up in the system under Briggs & Stratton they can cut a key. had to do that with my 1929


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Thank you for your information!

I'll try that today.

What did people do before the internet?
Thanks again

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Hi,
So I tracked down 2 blanks.
I had 1 cut to the code on the door handle.
It works for the door, but unfortunately not on the ignition.
Is there anyway to get the code off the ignition without it being unlocked?
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You have discovered the “Catch 22” with these locks. You have to have a working key to remove the lock cylinder so you can find the code to make a working key!

My best guess is that someone replaced the ignition lock on your car. Typically the ignition lock fails more frequently than the door lock. It gets a lot more use. That is what happened to my car. I was lucky to have both keys. So I was able to get the ignition lock cylinder re-keyed to match the door. Or maybe I went the other way. Either way I ended up with one key for the door and ignition.

You might post in the “parts wanted” section to borrow or rent a set of master keys. Also there are still a few locksmiths that have a set.

Good luck with your search.


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The most likely situation is that the ignition lock is frozen and the correct key will not operate it. Over the years the two die-cast internal pieces have swelled together. It is far too common for these ~90 year old parts. The center two pieces will move versus the outside cylinder but not between them. If you are extremely lucky the frozen parts might have some small movement that with lubrication and working them back and forth can restore enough movement to have the center pop out. That position reveals a button that can be pushed and the two pieces removed and reveal the lock code number. With gentle tapping and working the lock the tab piece can be removed and the center (with key slot) part pushed back and out it can take hours if nothing breaks to take it apart. If so, the two die-cast pieces can be sanded to restore a gap and the lock saved.

I have at least 20 of these locks that have resisted every attempt to free them including boiling in peanut oil. Eventually I will have to break the center section and replace it if and when reproductions are ever made. Been working on these locks for over 50 years so kinda know what I am doing. I can look at your lock if you send it to me but based on what has been posted am not optimistic.


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Thank you for the generous offer!
I've uploaded a short video hoping to maybe get your thoughts as to whether it is seized.



Hopefully the link works!

One other piece of information.

When the locksmith cut the key based on the door code, he said 2 of the cuts/notches that the code called for were not deep enough to cut into the key.

The key works great in the door though.

Thank you everyone for all the information!

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I have looked at the video a number of times. I can't be sure but there are a few turns of the key that almost look like the cover on the key slot moves ever so slightly before the entire pop-out part moves. If so it might not be frozen. The fact that the door lock key does not operate the switch causes me to have doubt that what I think I see is an unfrozen key cylinder. Even if not frozen picking the lock to get it to move enough so it pops out is a big step. It is a crap shoot at best.


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It looks like both the key cylinder and the pop out are moving to me so you might just have the wrong key.

If it was mine I would take a chance on getting a key made for it by picking the lock like Chipper said.

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One more thing most locksmiths won't even know what it is and could damage it by accident . Try to find one that knows those locks.

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If you want to spend the cost of shipping I can evaluate it. No guarantees but I am probably the best to evaluate it. I have worked on over 100 of them so have more experience that any local locksmith.


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I sent the electrolock cable assembly to Chipper without a key and he was able to pick the lock and make new keys. He has the experience with these units to "get them to cooperate". Yes, there are no guarantees but if it is reparable he can do it. Good luck with your five window coupe!

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Great, I know he does good work.

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Update...
I was able to get the lock picked!
Does anyone have any advice on how or where to find the key code?
Thanks again for all the help!

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The key code number is stamped on the popout cylinder. It will be between C-1500 and C-1700.


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Should I be able to see the key code stamp at this point?

I looked all around the part of the cylinder that is exposed and couldn't see one.

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The lock cylinder needs to be removed from the unit to see the number

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Once you have it popped out like you do, you will have to remove the key head lock from the dash and push the small button under there to pop out the key tumbler. Keep it pointed up so the phenolic card with the brass rivets does not drop out. It will only work when installed in one direction. The key number should be stamped on the base of the key tumbler. There are two people who work on those listed in the national newsletter.

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