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will a 53 manual trans work in a 50 some where along the line i thought i read there was a small difference
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I believe the rear mount is different. I rebuilt my 50 trans. using new 54 parts. They had stronger parts. better countershaft, needle bearings, better synros, etc. Might be hard to find new parts but should be able to use the 53 into your case if they are good.
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ok thanks i knew there was a difference somewhere so in other words all the guts in a 53 will work in a 49-52 case
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Yeah as long as it came from a car. Not sure if all the "good" parts came in a 53 but 54 did and they will fit. Maybe Gene will know. I know taxis had stronger trans. They are such a simple trans. compared with what we work on today.
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cant find a 54 trans anywhere what are the parts that are needed from the 54 to make the 50 a better trans is is just the cluster gear and maybe bearings am willing to search for whatever parts are needed to beef up the trans the i have thanks
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The 1953 and 1954 transmissions had the double set of roller bearings where the front main drive gear and rear main shaft connect. This can be installed in a 1949-1952 trans. that has the jumping out of high gear problem.
1954 has the roller bearing cluster gear.Can be installed in any 1940 and up trans..
The late 1953 and all 1954 models have a revised syncro, drum and 2nd gear. (2 lugs VS 4 lugs.)
The ideal wpold be to find a GOOD 1954 trans. and install all the internal parts along with new (ball) bearings, needle bearings and thrust washers.
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so i guess have to keep looking for a trans are the 53 & 54 exactly the same or is the 54 better another thing will a trans out of 54 1/2 ton work as long it was a column shift or is it a totally different from passenger cars thanks for all your now does anyone out there have a 54 trans andy
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Truck trans. is a different length.
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Gene is absolutely right. That is why I rebuilt mine with all those upgrades parts. I bought mine from a fellow member Warren Foster I believe from Texas. Might still have some left. Hey Gene has the 53 got all those upgrades?
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Warren passed a few years back. He was a great source for that stuff wasn't he. I miss him...He was one of the best.
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Sorry to hear of his passing. Yeah he was a great guy to deal with and helped me a lot on my transmission.
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couple of last questions can i put a roller bearing on the cluster gear of a 54 onto the cluster of a 53 and does anyone know of one somewhere i will be putting an ad on later in parts wanted thanks to all that have replied to my posts
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To install the 1954 guts into a 1950 case it will be necessary to use all of the 1954 parts. This includes the reverse idler gear and cluster gear and shafts.
If the 1954 case case raised "bumps" where the mounting holes are on your 1950 case you can drill and tap the 1954 case.
The 1953 had the bushing type cluster gear.
The 1953 transmission changed to the 1954 gears on Aug 18 at he Muncie plant and Aug 26 at the Saginaw plant....Trans seaial numbers M 8-18 and S-8-26.
The various changes in mid 1953 were "to close up gear tolerances which will assist in minimizing transmission gear rattle (cluch chatter) ) " as per TSB DR 159
Gene Schneider
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