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The standard jack, simple question, does it lift by/on the bumper, or, the bumper support/brackets? A picture of a standard jack would be appreciated. Thanks

Come on, picture of a '41 standard jack, please?

I'll try to take a picture of mine and post it.

Anyway, it sticks up between the bumper supports and has groves so that there is some security to prevent it from slipping off the ball and indentation in the base plate.

The 42 through 48s had a cover for the bumper supports so they couldn't use the 41 type bumper jack without a heap of trouble. The cover was meant to have a positive impact on the inferior look of the 42-48 with those wind tunnel designed fender caps. It didn't work by-the-way. The cars were still "ugly as home-made soap."

The lesson of it being hard to improve on perfection is never more evident than the constant try the Chevrolet Division of GM in their attempt to deminish the rule as it applies to the perfect looking 1941. No brag, just fact, as Walter Brennan used to say.

Back to the jack. I would expect that fog or passing light(s) would play havoc with the use of the 41 jack. At least it was no stinkin bumper jack. Some 42-48ers who don't show their cars, may have cut holes in the cover to accommodate the 41 jack.
I'm sure no 47/48 Fleetliners would do this because they wouldn't be able to stand the warranted criticism. Whatever.

Charlie

If tour jack is how you have it described it is NOT a 1941 jack...WHY... the 1941 rear bumper supports ard coverd by yhe gravel deflector that is between the bumper and the body.

Or did the 1941 get flats only on the front?

41 Bumper Jacks

Correct 48 Jack

Gene,

I just got back from Fletcher and not too sharp. (yeah, I know) So Oops! I was thinking the grooves were for the arms. But on reflection (brought on you your comment, I guess the groove is for the bumper itself.

My bad. 42-48ers my sincere apologies. As to the 47/48 fleet liners I apologize to you too. Dang, that hurt! Crapola!

Thanks,
Charlie

I for one would still like you to post a picture, please.

ya, me too

hop[py

Gene, go here your pic scroll down to the four pics you sent Mike. It appears to me the jack shaft is of the "I" beam type. Is this correct or not? Like the one on the right by Charlie here Charlie's

Looked at the original picture...yes, it is an I beam post.

Charlie, is it still one of these? Charlie's jacks

Come on Charlie, post a picture of what you have.

Are you '41'ers telling the '48'ers that you all don't know what the '41 jack looks like or have one?

Gene has posted pictures of what he believes is a '41. Mike has posted also. Is that it?

Mike did post pictures of the tag for the '41 jack use. However some people still believe the jack lifts by/on the bumper. I disagree. I read it as the jack is placed on and lifts by the bumper support. How many of you agree or disagree. Comments are needed on this.

Chipper said a while back that he believes that three different '41 jack exists.

As we all know by now the pic of the 41 I posted lifts the bumper support

Rustcar, The 1941 bumper jack I have is mounted to the bumper on the outside (chrome side). This is clearly shown on the 41 tag, and clearly reinforced by Gene in an old post. If it were mounted on the bumper brace then the handle would hit the bumper when you pumped it up and down and could not be used on the rear bumper because of the splash shield that is between the body and bumper. The column for my jack is round and smooth. The column in the tag appears to be jagged on one side like more modern jacks, as is the one pictured on the right of the picture I posted of the two jack styles used in 41. I took the picture of the two jacks at Phil Hubbard's. Phil was probably one of the most knowledgeable persons I know on 41's.

It has been several years since I used my 41 jack, when I did I followed the directions on the tag.

Have you done a search of past posts?

Yes I know.


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Are we talking about these jacks? If so, it clearly shows the jack on the outside (chrome side) and the lifting arm coming up behind the bumper and lifts on the support. Right or wrong. As Bruce said above, he demonstrated his jack, like the one on the right, on his '48. No problems with the shield. See cut-a-way on the tag showing the rear.

Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

OK - That makes sense for the big iron casting with the "V" shape.

Great job Russell, this answers several questions about the 41 jacks...You can notice though, Mikes pic of the black jack "and mine" and the one in the operational diagram are slightly different...
The one in the pics Gene has posted is the one in the diagram ...BTW the base for both measure 5 1/2" square...It is The same base used on the 40 jack

Gene, THANK YOU!!!

I was beginning to

So, it is now official!

Much credit goes to you my friend. Without your picture I am sure I would have failed to convince some.

I hope to have an example of the jack Gene has shown us so many pictures of by next weekend. You have the one shown in Mike's picture. The one with the "boxed" shaft. Gene's is the one with the "I beam" shaft. Then the friction jack, makes three.

I hope this ends soon, as buying all these jacks just to make a point is using up my nest egg.

Yes, I believe the one on the tag and Gene's are one and the same. It is my belief the early '41 were the I beam and later replaced by the boxed. Probably because of cost. Or different manufactures. Just a thought.

Russell should be able to out do may jack display by now!!You know I traded the 40 jack...I have not given up looking though...Got to fill the work day some how

Not so, as I have given all but one to try and buy friends.

No! For what?

The 47 Jack....Thought it would be a 48

Will now add to my watch list. Can't have a hole on the wall.

Thanks my friend