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Ladies and Gents
I have a hot rod 1936 pick up the frame of which has been modified for 8 cyl etc. I see a 1936 frame with drive train and steering column and wheel on ebay that looks very nice it is from a coupe. I looked at wheelbase of my 1/2 ton (did not measure) on google and possibly its 113 inches and the coupe is 110 perhaps. Comments please on the switch. Convert a hot rod to an original.
1927 Ken

Ken,
You might be able to mount your truck body on that frame but you would not be making an original truck by doing so.
The '36 Standard frame is probably substantially different from the '36 pickup frame.
Also it has 5 bolt wheels, a different transmission, front axle, rear axle, etc. The engine would be the same, but not much else.
If the eBay chassis can be bought for the opening bid or close to that figure, it would be a bargain.

Mike.

Ken,

When I got my stock '36 pickup in 1965 I was a 20 year old college kid and I immediately hot rodded it with a small block Chevy V-8, B & M Hydrostick and open drive Chevy pickup rear end.

Then in 1971 I decided to restore it and did so. That required welding to fill the holes I'd drilled in the frame and cross member for engine mounts, not a huge job. If you give me your email address I'll send you a photo of what the used to be "rat rod" looks like today. I think you'd be impressed by the transformation.

Why don't you join the 1936 Chevy Owner's forum. They are mostly street rod builders doing the opposite of what you want to do and they may be removing the parts you are looking for. Some of them put '36 pickups on S10 frames.

hey guys

thanks

Ken

email cpaxirs@comcast.net

anyone know range of year pickup parts that would work

The 1936 1/2 ton framre fit that year and model only.

Ken,
The engine is a one year only but from any '36 car or truck. Transmission can come from many '32-'36 except Standard series, Rear end might be the same as '34-'35 pickup and '34 passenger (maybe '33 Passenger) but '36 1/2 ton will be the only one with Hydraulic brakes. Radiator is '34-'36 truck (any size).
If you have a parts catalog, you can find all this info there. look at springs, front axle beam, spindles, etc.

Mike

need front spindles and brake assemblies, rear end with driveshaft or is that torque tube? rear brakes, crossmembers for frame, steering wheel thru drag link (steer gear box and column ) gauges , brake clutch pedal assembly, drive train, spoke wheels.

that ebay coupe would have fit the bill but not the truck

"need front spindles and brake assemblies,"

Those are plentiful from street rod builders. They substitute IFS and pull and discard the original parts. Front and rear brakes are the same '36-'50. Asbestos linings are abundant on ebay and work way better than "organic" that has been bureaucrat mandated since about 1980.

"rear end with driveshaft or is that torque tube?"

If you're going to do the 3.55 rear gear conversion I described in my 1936 Chevy Owners forum article you will be using a 1937 Chevy car rear end. Stock 1936 rear gear ratio is 4.11. Ugh!

"rear brakes, crossmembers for frame,"

Same source, street rod builders.

"steering wheel thru drag link (steer gear box and column ) gauges , brake clutch pedal assembly,"

Street rod guys again and occasionally show up on ebay.

"drive train,"

If you're using a 3-speed trans it has to have the 3/8"-16 tpi threaded lugs on the sides, casting 590532 or 590715, for the pedals and e-brake to bolt to. The 590695 trans has the right internals but not the threaded lugs. I have an extra 590532 empty case.

Restorers have an unrealistic view of the value of these transmissions. They are rare but there is also very little demand. The last one I picked up cost me $25 because the swap meet guy who had it admitted to me that he couldn't get rid of it at swap meets for that price.

"spoke wheels."

Again, rare and very pricey from restorers but also available from street rod builders if you are patient.

Good luck!

bought a set of wire wheels

will look for 36 p/u with drive train and steering to go get in may or june

Hey Ken,

Here are a couple of places to look for your pickup drive train:

http://www.frenchlakeautoparts.com/

http://www.owenssalvage.com

Cheers, Dean

Dean
Thanks
Ken

Update

got 8 wire wheels for my 1936 pick up now delivered via Uship for 300 plus 50 dollar tip, delivered from Mullens WV to Chicago 600 miles. Wheels with tires. these guys were young and working hard delivering and independent businessmen.
Still looking for that 36 rolling chassis with drive train and steering all.

They might have been available as special equipment, but wire wheels are not usually seen on a '36 half ton. Artillery wheels were standard equipment.
I recommend you join the 1936 Chevy owners group on Yahoo. Most of those guys modify their vehicles. It would be possible to find a complete rolling chassis for your truck there. Good luck.

Mike

From what I can find 1936 1/2 ton trucks were available with wire or artillary wheels. They are most often seen with the artillary.

when my father got it in 1965 it had wire wheels

dummy me I sold them in 1972 along with all other items I am looking for now

Ladies and Gents

is the 1936 6cyl babbitt bearings? When did inserts come to be?

Ken

Ken
To my knowledge the 216 and earlier were all originally babbit and the "slipper" bearing first in the 235 and bigger. I would like someone to correct me on this.
Tony

1929-1952 and 1953 stick shaft and truck engines did not have rod inserts. They all also had rod dippers.
The 1953 Power Glide and all 1954 and up engines had inserts and full pressure oiling.

The exception is 1953 Canadian stick engins has inserts and full pressure oiling.

Chev Nut
thank you for your help. My Uncle lived in West Allis and my cousins lived in Greendale a lovely small town with a great municipal square. I have a house in Lake Geneva where I keep my cars. We are all German Dutch and enjoy our beer. I will have a few while working on my 36 and 27's.
Best to You
Ken

Tony
thank you for your help, this club is the best. When I was a young man I would always ask my Dad he knew everything. Now that he is gone I ask VCCA as these guys and gals here know everything.
soon to be workin on that 36
Ken

Guys and Gals
have been finding 37 1/2 ton engine - trans and rear ends at good prices, are we sure these are different than ones that came with my 36? Is it an number thing?
Thanks
Ken

You will have to have 1936 for that. Chevrolet was making a lot of engineering design changes every year. It was the depression. Sales were poor. Chevrolet was trying to make an affordable low cost car/truck. The public was not going to pay anything extra. Yet demanded the very best. A good investment for you would be the Chevrolet Master Parts Price List Book. 1929-1942 That way you could look up the parts and see which ones fit what year. You can get a copy at The Filling Station or Chevy's of the Forties.

All GM cars had major mechanical changes and improvements for 1937. Both were record sales years. For a 1/2 ton three speed truck the engine and transmission were completely new in 1937.
If you wanted 1937 parts all you would find is 1936 parts.
Thats just the way it goes.

Guys and Gals
have a line on a 37 for cheap, my late 36 p/u low cab, is there anything on this complete truck good for me? emergency brake, spindles and brakes? speedo cable? any other items?
Ken