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Picked up two 1933 parts cars today and most were simply parts. One seems to be a Town Sedan with the hump back trunk. The other seems to be a Mercury two door coach. I have two dashboards and the one in the Town Sedan seems to have four gages in the center area of the dash. The dash in the Mercury looks more like a 34 dash with the half shaped moon inserts on each side and what could be a radio in the center? The Mercury has a firewall plate the Town Sedan does not. I have two front ends with standard shocks and two rather complete frames. Now the tough question. Is there a place on the frame where there is a SN? And once I find A SN what will that tell me? Thanks

Mercury? It is my understanding that there is no such thing. Are you talking about a Standard instead?

There is no car serial number on the frame. It is only on the serial number plate that is attached to the passenger side wood main sill.

The 1933 Standard has three dials. outer two are larger that the center one. Has the indentations on the top of the dash.
Correct, Chevrolet never called the Standard a Mercury.
The early Master was called an Eagle.

The job number for the 1933 "Standard" coach is 33601. Is that what you have?....Joe

Thanks Skip for the information on SN. I got the Mercury term from George Dammann's book on page 107. He shows a two door coach that he defines as "The most popular car in the Mercury Series" I also noticed that this photo does not show the hood with doors but with louvers?

Hey Brownie: George's book is incorrect since there wasn't a "Mercury" series in 1933.

Models in the "Standard" series were completely different than the models in the "Master" series, including different engines and etc.

Some of the information printed in that book should be discarded. We've found nothing from Chevrolet indicating the "New Standard Six" is or was to be called the Mercury Series. The only publications out there are from independent resources. I have the 16th Standard Sports Coupe built in Oakland & the serial number says "Standard". What's the job number on the firewall tag?....Joe

1935 was the first radio in dash

Not in a Standard....Joe

Brownie has a 1933, not a 1935.

First are we 100% sure that both are '33 models? Second, I think that Bill was merely pointing out that the opening in the dash on the one car would not have been for a radio if it were a '33 as the first Chevy in dash radio was in a '35 model.

That was my question. He says he has the firewall plate on one but has not shared that information. He says 4 gauges in one & it has a built in trunk. I'm thinking 1932 5 passenger coupe is one. Time will tell...Joe

I am thinking it is a 1933 Town Sedan.

Joe was indiacting the the 1935 and older Standard did not have an opeening for a radio. The 1935 Master was the first .

I do think that both cars are from 1933. I will get out and take some photos today and check the one firewall plate that I have.

Brownie
If you have trouble posting pictures, you can send them to me...Joe

O)K, I was over and looked at the two cars tonight. The one is the 33-601 as read from the dash plate. It also has a Body K and a few spaces over is a 22. The trim is 29 and I expect the other number below the trim is 151 (the plate is in bad shape. Both have the SN plate on the door pillar removed so I cannot tell anything from that.

Brownie

33601 is a 1933 Standard Coach that was made in the Kansas City factory.

The one with the 33601 should have a number plate on the cross brace just in front of where the passenger seat would be. K22 is the 22nd 1933 Standard coach built in Kansas. 151 is Baker blue & 29 is the higher end interior for that car....Joe