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On my 38 Master, I assume that welting is used between the fenders and the body. On my 1951 truck, welting and anti-squeak material is used. Is the anti-squeak material used anywhere on the Master? I guess one area for anti-squeak material would be between the running boards and the fenders.

No welting goes around the fender/runningboard) area. When I did the fenders welting on my Master I put a thin black rubber washer bewteen the runningboard and fender.

Not sure all would agree with you Steve. I wouldn't say what is correct for sure, but the 4 that I have all have welting between fender and running board.

The cars that I have seen had welting between the fender and running board as well.

Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the total length of welting is about 12 inches. If the back was like that,the front welting would be really long by going all the way around the bottom of the fender. Love to see a photo of that.

Curiosity got me. I called steele rubber and ask about that. Paul says there is a piece of rubber that goes bewteen the fender and running board called a anti-squeek rubber. It's much larger than the welting. 1/2 bulb. $43.20 for a 12 ft roll. It's on all models of 38 chevys including sedan delivery.

I've never seen this piece of rubber but if it goes there I guess I'll order it. I can't even find a photo of it. 1/2 inch bulb sounds huge to me.

http://www.steelerubber.com/

Ever notice that every time your wrong it cost money..gheez Put me down for wrong answer on this one. Now I have to take all those bolts loose again.

Okay...will do. Hum, your "wrong answer list" is getting kinda sorta long though.

Steve, That is what I like about Chevy Chatter. I can get the correct answers from a multitude of people who know more and share there expertice. And I like to thank everyone who has helped some of us though our projects.

I google everything. That's not to say I still can't be wrong...smiles

There a few questions no one can answer on this forum ,but they're few and far bewteen. These guys are pretty good and pretty fast. You don't have to wait 2-3 days to find out something.

Steve, the anti squeek is a completely different thing, it runs the length of the board, on the back lip under the body. On the new old stock boards I had it was stapled to that edge and was much like the fender welt, possibly a bit larger, but nothing like the rubber part that is sold.

I really don't know. Paul said it went between the fender and the running board. He said it had a 1/2 blub. What you are describing sounds flat.

I'll call again tomorrow. He says the fender welting doesn't go between the fender and running board.

I think the rubber he has is the same Filling Station part number CV-54. It looks like welting but much larger.

I don't believe welting was placed between the fender and the running board. On my (mostly original) 38 there was a material that was very similar to the materal that is between the fender and cowl, the hook shaped pieces in this. The bulb stuff is run along the back of the running board, under the doors, and is riveted to the running board.

Brian

"I don't believe welting was placed between the fender and the running board."

That's what I said orginally. I can't even find a photo of a orginal 38 that had welting placed bewteen the fender and runningboard. Where's ED when we need him...Tiny?

I can't speak for 1938's, but I have owned three orignal 1939 sedans and they did not have welting between the running board and front fender. The only place the front fenders had welting was from the inside bottom of the fender where it bolts to the cowl up to where the inside fender well and hood opening begins.(approx. 16") They had flat anti-squeak material between the front of the fender and the running board. I have owned several NOS running boards and they had the long bulb type material (about the size of windlace)stapeled to the inside of the full length running boards. They served as a seal between the running board and the rocker panel area to keep dirt and mud off of the running boards.I sold Steele Rubber several pieces of orignal NOS rubber for patterns in the 7o's at the Pate Swap Meet.

Thanks for the information.

My 38 Master coupe does NOT have fender welting between the fenders and running boards It is a perfect tight fit on both ends of the running boards on both sides of the car....ED

Great, now I don't have to take all that stuff apart again.
THANKS

I can't add much since I didn't take mine apart, the body shop did. I searched my archive of "before" pictures and I found a couple showing that area but not closely. From what I can see from the pictures there wasn't any welting in that area. I went out to look at the car now and it seems the body shop thought something was needed in that area because there is welting there now. It doesn't look out of place so I'm not going to holler at them.

From the original vehicles I have seen there was material between the fender and the running board. We all call it welting, but it was actually an anti-squeak material that kinda sorta looked like the welting but without the rolled bead.

SO....I'm kinda-sorta correct in saying that a 38 chevrolet does not have welting bewteen the fender and runningboards?

Depending on how many nits you want to pick eh?

Like I said my 38 Master coupe (I am 3rd owner) has NO fender welt between the fenders and the running boards.

Now if one thinks about it, that area is a perfect place for rain water to collect and cause a rust problem down the line.
It seems to me that any engineer (worth his salt) would pick up on this and not install anything that would prohibit the water from draining out of this trap..(unless he is being paid to build in a rust problem) to prematurely force the sale of a new car to replace this rusted out one.....ED

If that were true then logically no welting (anti-squeak) should be used between the rear fender and the body either. Same for other locations as well. The 1938 edition of the Chevrolet parts book shows that anti-squeak was used between the fender and the running board on the 1937 and 1938 passenger cars. The part number for the anti-squeak is 594489.

The purpose of an anti-squeak was to keep mating pieces of metal from rubbing against each other thus making a rattle or a squeaking noise. Usually, the thin material that was used between the running board and the fender slowly deteriorated over the years.

This car is pretty much 1938 stock. look at ticker 0.07,no welting on the bottom of the front fender.

Hum....so what does "pretty much 1938 stock" mean?

Not like mine. Small nit picky items could make it a not completely correct car ( gear shift knob,paint,tires) but other than that ,pretty much the way it was in 1938.