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I did notice the beefy crossmember in some of the other photos.

WOW, it sure does. The driveshaft and exhaust pipe goes thru the brace.



Looking at the photo...I'm not sure the driveline would drop low enough to repair the Ball/Bell gasket or changeout a bad universal joint. Hmmm Also the emerg. brake linkage is touching the exhaust pipe. (rattle) ?

I believe he's referring to the Canadian & other 'foreign' models.

I could be wrong on the time frame but I believe it was in the '60s before an oil filter became standard equipment.

A 265 small block chevy engine has a oil filter on top of the intake and a 283 has a screw on type on the block. That's the way you can tell if a smallblock is a 265 (no place to screw on the oil filter).



265....1955-57

the 1955 engine came with no filter. If one was installed it sat on top of the engine as per picture.
The 1956 had the full flow filter mounted down under on the left side as thye all were on a small block after that.
The oil filter continued to be an option up till 1960......but you could not buy the car without ordering the option if most cases.
There were a few combinations with the V-8 that you could get with no oil filter and a plate was bolted over the filter opening.
Beginning in 1962 the 235 came with a filter.

We may be in the wrong forum..better move on...grin

Tiny,
as I mentioned, if you read the US brochure for the 38, you will see that the standard does not come with a temperature gauge. The Canadian model however did.

The engine heat indicator is offered as an accessory for $2.50. It says it is a valuable addition for the MASTER models. It's in the accessory booklet.

I don't have a brochure but my Master came with a temp gauge as did the Master Deluxe, the difference being in the markings on the gauge face. My '38 Master's gauge panel is below:



Maybe it was an option that the original owner had installed????

Mine is like yours. Here is the accessory that is offered at $2.50. The face is a little different.




The section under 212 degrees is filled in with a solid color ( booklet is in black and white.

I just ran down and checked the hand brake linkage, not touching, a good 1 1/2" clearance off exhaust pipe.

HaHa. Didn't mean to worry you. Just thinking outloud. Will the Bell/Ball be accessible when the driveshaft is lowered? Looks like it won't drop down far enough. Do you need anything else to worry you? It's hard to see Australia from Tennessee....smiles

I'd hope so, I dont think they would made it not accessible.
A couple of oil leaks, a well oiled car.

Everything is A-OK , the hole looks bigger from that angle. If I think of anything else to bug you about I'll post it later...just kidding. Really nice car.

This is a interesting subject.My 38 Master has a temp gauge....But after reading this post I checked the owners manual (page 8) it says "temperature gauge (Master Deluxe Models) This leads me to believe that the "Master" did not come with a Temp Gauge??? I have never seen a 38 Master that did not have a Temp gauge. This is real strange to me ...Why would a car come from the factory without such a low cost item???.....Confused in Cincinnati.....ED

Not having a temperature gauge is indeeed strange but not near as strange as a car with one fuse for the entire car. I understand the waterpump that requires oiling or the wipers that ran off vacuum because the tech. just wasn't there, but fuses have been around along time before 1938. Just sayin.

Was the temperature gauge in the states just something that got installed on 38's even tho it is listed as an option. Does anybody have a 38 without a temp gauge? Interesting. My 38 also has temp gauge. grant

I think you're on the right trail. It probably works like this..you could order a 38 without a temp.gauge as a "temp. delete" so really it was a option. Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me. Someone posted that you could order or get a 283 small block without the oil filter and just have a plate bolted on to cover the spin-on opening. Again..why would you do that? Who knows. The photo that shows the word Chevrolet in place of a temp. gauge is the first I've ever seen.

Now for the good news. That delete plate or logo plate on the instrument panel should be REALLY rare. Some guys are interested in the super rare parts to collect. $$$$$$$

I saw a photo of a 38 coupe that was in India that had a sidemount spare tire/rim. That is not offered as an option but was available on cars that were going to be exposed to extremely bad road condtions (South Africa,India,etc.). So I guess the word OPTION covers a lot of Territory.

The temp. gauge was not an option for a 1938 Master. An option is an item that could be ordered installed on the car at the factory. It was a dealer installed accessory and the majority of the cars had them installed, Same for the right tail lamp and wiper.
Actually there were almost no factory installed options for a 1938. The only one I can think of off hand is the oil bath air cleaner. Most dealers in the dusty western states ordered them. Very few cars were ordered by the buyer. Most of the cars were bought out of the dealers inventory.
Priot to 1938 the bumpers were a factory installed option BUT no car left the factory without them. This was done to make the advertised price look more attractive. This was done by most makes.
The v-8 engines that came with ot oil filter but rater a plate attached over the opening was not done as a buyers choice. A kit was sold by Chevrolet the contained the necessary parts to install the filter. If I remember correctly this was done on the small truck engines.

Years back when I used to dig through small town dealers parts loooking for goodies it was common to find a box of the clock dummy plates, tenp. gauge plates and the dummy filler for the right wipers.

Thanx Again Chev Nut for more of your words of wisdom that only comes from your years of experience.

BTW....I remember when I worked in a garage, many years ago when I was 18/19 YO.
Our local auto machine shop used to come to our shop, bring there equipment, and turn the crankshaft while still in the car...They would also rebore cylinders with the engine in the car.
Good luck getting that done these days.......ED

Ah, Geez...I still have one of those Boring Bars...I'm trying to think of the make...It clamps to the cylinder next to the one your boring while in operation and can be used while the block is still in the car...Unfortunately, I believe you have to remove the hood to use it. lol

It does a great job, though. Smooth finish. Doubles as a hat rack.

So...did a 38 Master leave the factory with a temp gauge or not?


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"the owners manual (page 8) it says "temperature gauge (Master Deluxe Models)"

Kevin....Turning the crankshaft while in the car was a real treat to watch..The old guy I worked for in those days (who owned the garage) was a "appointment only guy" he had a real following of customers.
He was a airplane mechanic in the Army Air Corps (before the U.S. had a "Air Force" ) in WWII.
He was a stickler for perfection.and taught me to except nothing but the best....He told me that during the war if any pilot got killed he did not want it to be his fault...He was a great guy...Long dead now......ED

Steve...Good Question......Who Knows??...The Shadow knows... Ed