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I have a 35 Chevy Coach. I have 2 sun visors. Does anyone have any detailed pics of how they are installed? I think I know how the hardware fits on the visor but don't know how or where the hardware bolts onto the roof or windshield frame or where ever. I noticed one set of holes for the hardware is closer to the side edge of the visor than the other. Not sure which hinge goes there, the "L" shaped one or the straight one. All information will be appreciated. Thanks.

Some one needs to post some photo's of the inside of their car. That will show how it should go.

On a 1936 the visor mounts above the windshield into the header with screws, and then swivels and plugs into a socket above the door when shading the side windows.

Peter, The holes should be the same distance on both ends.

Jon, do you know what that distance is? One set of holes is 1" from the edge and the other side is 2" from the edge.

On a 35 Standard, the holes are about 1-1/2" from edge, about 1-1/8" from edge to edge of Bracket.

Thanks Jon.

Peter, Do you have a picture of the Board?

Jon, here are the pics.

The one with 3 sets of holes (Visor 1) is: The left side - about 1" from edge to center of holes. The right side - one set of holes is about 1" to center of holes from the edge and the other set of holes is about 2" to center of holes from the edge.

The one with 2 sets of holes (Visor 2) is: The left side - about 1 1/4" from edge to center of holes. The right side - about 1 3/4 from edge to center of holes.

Peter, The one with the three sets of holes is for a 33 Master. Someone has made a second set of holes to work on another car. The one with two sets of holes looks like a 35 Master although I can not see the picture real well. Neither one is correct for a 35 Standard.

Thanks Jon.
What is the difference between the Master and the Standard visors? How can you tell which is which?

Pete V

The Standard Visors IE 33's 34's and 35 Standards have a Leather like look finish. The 35 Master is a harder board and has a "sprayed on like" finish.

My '35 Standard visors are masonite, smooth on both sides, and painted with brown wrinkle finish. One is original to the car and the other one was added by me, 40 years ago. They look like the one pictured with no extra holes. I was under the impression that Master and Standard used the same visor in 1935.
My car does not have a headliner. I can get you some good photos of mounting if you still need them.

Mike

I think we've had this conversation before. Mine is also original and is not smooth. Checking my "Genuine Chevrolet original Accessory Broc.", it shows both so I would assume both are correct. Maybe it depended on the plant they were built in?

Mike,
Thanks for the info. I think I will get another piece of Masonite and make the passenger one. I will save the cardboard one if someone needs it. What are the measurements of the brackets to the edge of the visor? Are they both the same?

Thanks again,
Pete V

Jon,
What did you mean by "leather like"? Something other than the wrinkle?
I agree that the embossed visor is for '33 Master. I too have the '35 Accessory catalog which shows this visor, but if I recall, it is for illustrating the vanity visor mirror, and not the visor itself. I will check the accessory Catalog when I get home.

Pete,
The visors are the same (R & L). except the brackets/pivots are attached to give matching, mirror image, appearance when installed.

Mike

Not sure how to describe the "leather like" finish. It's like a grain finish. Maybe by what you mean as "embossed". For a right hand Visor you need a "Right Hand" swivel bracket which is the exact opposite of a left hand bracket. And Peter, the Visors are the same, both right and left.

J Franklin,
Does that mean that I need 2 sockets per visor? One for when the visor is used when blocking sun from the windshield and one for when I swing it around to block sun from the side window?

Pete V

Jon,
Pete's visor with the extra holes is the one I call embossed. It has a pattern stamped into a paper type product.

I admit to being a feeble minded old man who is easily confused, but I need further clarification on your statements that we "need a right hand swivel bracket which is the exact opposite of a left hand swivel", followed by "the visors are the same, both right and left"

Mike

I believe that is how it works. I have a '36 but my visor is not on the car but I do have the hardware. It was off when the headliner was installed and I have just left it off. Others might clarify it.

Peter, Yes, you need two sockets. One in the header and one above the door. The holes are already there. Mike, you need opposite swivel brackets and I know it's confusing, it took me awhile to figure it out. If you use the same swivel on both sides the mounting brackets will be different when the visor is up. One side will be right, the other side the brackets will be upside down. Those brackets have what I call a front and a back. Take your visor with the hardware on it from the Drivers side and put it on the passenger side and you'll see what I mean. I have one of those passenger side swivels but they are very rare as that Visor was very rare. Hope this helps.
Correction: it's not the swivel that's different, it's the "L" shaped bracket that's used. One turns left the other turns right.

Thanks everyone.

I understand all of your explanations. I have one complete visor for the driver's side. It is Masonite and has the swivel and the post and 2 sockets for the post. The other that I have is cardboard and incomplete. I have the swivel (driver's side) and the post but only one socket for the post for over the header, no passenger socket. I can make another Masonite visor for the passenger side but have only one post socket.

I have 2 choices. - 1) I can use just one complete visor on the driver's side. - 2) I can have 2 visors, one complete, and one with no post socket over the side window, just on the header. The swivel is for a driver's side but still works although "upside down" but it doesn't matter to me. It is not a 1000 point car and is going to be enjoyed by my family, grandkids included. I will put the post on "upside down" too so it will match. No one will be in my car that will notice, and if they do, and say something, they will promptly be on the outside looking in. LOL!

Does anyone know where I can buy anther post socket?

I have a spare swivel without the "L" bracket that needs minor repair and an extra baseplate for a swivel bracket.

Thanks again for all your help and information.
Pete V

Peter, These do show up on E-bay once in a while. I used to have several of them but not anymore. Try Bruce Bugay.