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I have noticed that it has started to snow and get really cold up north. Here is some advice for coping with those undesirable conditions:

a. Keep a windshield scraper handy and in the same place so you can readily get to it on a cold morning.

b. Take a good tow chain, rope or strap with you. Often those who want to help get you out of the ditch have none of these items.

c. Caution whoever pulls you out of the stuck position you find yourself in to not snatch the towing device. It will bend something and lock up the towing device to where cuss words will not even help get it unstuck. A slow, stead pull is best.

d. Always have a tip in the console for any good Smaratin who helps you.

e. Add a cinder block to the trunk. More weight helps traction. It also helps in centrifugal force to carry you all the way to the deepest part of the ditch.

f. Get some snow tires. Studded ones where permitted. They sound nice. Sorta like golf cleats on cement. You know.

g. if your windshield keeps fogging up from it being cold, Put as much of you bare hand on it until it clears a little space. Get up close and look through the space and drive as usual. The space will tend to increase to where you have a bigger and bigger opening in about an hour or until you get to your destination, whichever comes first.

h. Have your missus knit you some ear-muffs. You can endure anything if your ears aren't freezing.

I. Consider moving south. look at the temps for places like Detroit and Milwaukee or ST Paul and compare with Orlando and Miami. its a no-brainer. Speaking southern is easy to learn.

j. If you decide to snow-bird by coming south, do not remove the snow from the roof. it will be ready to slide off by the time you hit North Carolina on, say, I-95 and we down here don't see much snow so we like to see clumps of it fly off those cars a-heading south. Do too!

k. Stop in NC to get yourself some good B-B-Cue eastern vinegar based kind. You can get it just off I-95 in Wilson, NC. Either Bills or Parkers. Good stuff!

L. Figure on toping off the fuel tank in SC. Cheapest gas on the eastern seaboard.

m. You and your missus look at some property whilst you are down in FL or anywhere south of the VA/NC border. After moving on down here you will ask yourself why you didn't do this a long time ago. Will too! Down here we ofter go play outside during the winter months. Do too! Learn to like Bluegrass. Its a getting used to thing. Just takes time. Also, learn to like white cornbread. Yellow corn is for the stock. Only white corn is fit for human consumption.

n. Back up North: When you go back in the house up there after getting the car running and warming up, have the missus make you some hot chocolate and blueberry muffins. She will be glad to do it. After all you're the man. The one who insists on living up there. Yep!

Help this helps you cope and sparks some good musings about your choice of where you live on the planet.

You're welcome and it was my pleasure,
Charlie

you said it Charlie,here in west central Florida it's supposed to be 80 degrees on monday. Might have to take a drive in my Corvair convertible. Ed Bittman VCCA#47508 Dade City,Fl

Have fun,

At least you don't have to watch out for polar bears whilst out tooling around during the winter months. Palm trees a-swayin in the breeze, oranges everywhere,
Bikinis crossing the road and Mi-ties in the cabana... You know.

Charlie

Charlie et al: Try googling "snow in Georgia" and let us know what you see.

Charlie, thanks for my chuckle for today.

Cinder block in the trunk? Might be best to put it in whatever end of the car does the driving and many if not most cars today are front wheel drive.

1 cinder block is hardly worth the effort, half dozen is getting closer.
Tony

If you want some extra income while getting better traction, use dead bodies. They won't slide around as much as the blocks.

Dean

That's only legal in New York and New Jersey.................



All the Best, Chip

Chip ...... our local news 13 seems to be reporting more dead bodies in our Asheville / Hendersonville area, these days. Sad change of events.

I checked the paper today for the long-range forcast for the twenty-fifth.

The weather forcast calls for partly cloudy with a high of only 75.

Tomorrow, if I see that cold a forcast again, I'll make a trip to the grocery and stock up on milk, pop-tarts and bread. I hope I'm not too late. These freek cold spells tend to put folks in a panic down here and there is no telling what, if anything, will be left on the shelves by the weekend.

I have talked to the missus and we are checking on land to build on a bit farther south. Say southern Florida. We have had enough of these darn low temperture winters up here in North Carolina. Have too!

This is short because I have to go and dig out the extra blankets.

Charlie

BTW: This may not be a welcome post for those of you stuck up there in the snow-belt. My apologies for being somewhat insensitive to your circumstances.

I have heard the land in southern Florida is rather spongy. The 25th here will be a mix of rain/snow. Sure glad it will not be cold as "the missus" will want to turn on the heat. When it gets to freezing I put on my L.L. Bean flannel shirt if going outside but only if it's not snowing or rainy as I will need to wear it to church services. While there will pray for those affected by wind, fire, and rain and that's for real.

I don't know Charlie, last week we had to drive from Iowa to San Antonio, Texas to find snow. No snow here in Iowa yet but they say we may have a slight chance Thursday.

Well, Uncle Ed, I hope you are all set for it. And, I hope you have plenty of coal available for the pot-bellied stove. Get some milk, bread and pop-tarts. You'll survive. (It is said down and over here when hurricans come, that the first thing the super markets run out of is Pop-tarts. Strawberry ones go first)

Best wishes for the holidays,

Charlie

Been down here in central Florida from SE Massachusetts since 12/24. While my wife loves it, it’s still not my cup of tea. I love hunting and like the colder weather. Nothing like hunting whitetail with a nice snow cover on the ground. Plowing snow I’ve done since before I could legally drive so no big deal. Bought a 86’ diesel military blazer this past summer with a fisher plow. The combination of short wheelbase with the torque of the 6.2, plowing is a joy and at $500 for the whole package, cheaper than most snow blowers. There’s also something special about coming in out of a fresh snowfall to sit in front of my harmann pellet stove with a nice cup of spiked coffee and my feet up. Just don’t get that here in Florida. Now the real kicker to this whole warm weather issue. My wife has a circulatory issue and gets cold easily. I’ve gotten sick every summer for more than the last 12 yrs lasting 2-4 months and the doctors never being able to diagnose my problem. This year after my most recent bought, I spent thousands on all kinds of doctors and all kinds of testing to try and figure out what the heck is going on. In Boston , a doctor finally believes he might have the answer. It seems my blood might be changing its molecular structure in the warm temperatures causing my symptoms of extreme fatigue, muscle and joint pain, and just feeling lousy. So, there’s the dilemma, my wife medically needs the heat, and the heat is medically bad for me. Looks like we’ll be keeping both properties and she’ll be heading south much earlier than me every winter. Think she’ll be mad if I only visit her for the holidays?

CT,

Now that right there was a nice try. Was too!

I noticed in the paper today something real interesting. It will probably interest your missus more than you with your oil for blood melecular structure and all. Here's the weather from my newspaper for today (these happen to be right next to each other):

City Today High/low Tomorrow High/low

Miami 81/63 PC 79/59 PC

Milwaukee 18/0 SF 10/4 PC

Minneapolis 6/11 SN -4/14 PC

Orlando 66/51 C 70/47 S

Omaha 20/-4 SN 2/-11 PC

PC = Partly Cloudy SF = Snow Fluries SN = Snow C = Cloudy S = Sunny

Now I don't want to insult anyone's intellegence but this right here ain't no rocket science. Think about it.

Charlie

BTW: To cherish the moment after dealing with snow removal, it seems to me that a cup of spicked coffee and a warming fire at your feet instead of pina coladas on the beach under swaying palms and bikinies everywhere is a sure sign that someone needs their priorities adjusted. Do too!

BTW2: I think your missus is perfectly normal. I think you may need - as a minimum - an oil change.

My story is actually true. The wife has Raynaud’s disease and my condition doesn’t have a specific name. So, in all honesty, she gets ill with temps less than mid50’s if exposed for too long. For me, as the temperature goes up in the summer, my bloods molecular structure slowly changes making me ill and my symptoms don’t start to subside until the temperature starts to fall. All my symptoms disappear in the cold temperatures. Sounds pretty crazy but that’s what the doctors have come up with.

Just so you know, my wife and I have a little place in MX where we go every year. I drink Johnny walker black under those palm trees. We go for just a week before summer back home starts and the doctors believe that yearly trip might be where my condition starts to affect me each year . So in reality, it seems I have a “heat” condition.

CT,

I get it and realize that folks may have a valid reason for not being able to enjoy the warmer climates of our country. I hope you don't hold my comments against me.

The notion I've been poking at you northerns about was mere joking around. Nothing more and I surely didn't mean any hard feelings.

I hope that you and your family enjoy the seasons up there and stay cool and warm as the weather dictates. Everyone else too!

Best wishes,
Charlie

Charlie,
Just trying to keep your "skirt clean" {just an idiom not meant to denote anything about gender} and others egos or feelings bruised.

In today's environment some of your posts could be considered social harassment. Not that you are a politician or entertainer but we don't want you to have to resign because of what someone might claim offended them.

I'm sure this post puts me on "shaky ground". I have on my "big boy pants" so not likely to get them in a wad.

Don’t worry about anything Charlie, I took no offense to anything you said. If we can’t have fun poking fun at ourselves and others than what good is living. Unfortunately, as Chipper was alluding to, the world is full of “snowflakes” these days with even one or two popping up here on the VCCA occasionally. OK, now I’m in trouble!

Chistech,

Welcome to the pool. It is up to the reader to determine which pool.

Hey, reader did that get you thinking? Great!

I am reading and thinking it is not a "pool" reserved for "club" members and anyone can get in.

Just got home from the Villages in Lady Lake, FL today. My inlaws live there and my son in Williston an hour away. Spent the holidays with them. Left yesterday at 3:30 and got home to Dartmouth MA this morning at 9:30 for an 18hr straight drive. It was 41 degrees when we left Gainsville and when I stopped to top off my fuel tank at the FL/GA line, the temp was down to 15. The whole way home the highest the temp went after that was 13 with the low to 0 in NY up by the Tappan Zee Bridge area.

I'm sitting right now infront of that pellet stove with a nice warm cup of coffee watching the idiot box. Going to comment on the drivers on the road and a little back ground on me. I have driven over 2 million miles in combo rigs hauling livestock and have a class A license with endorsements in doubles, triples, tankers, bus, school bus, and motorcycle. I have a good grasp of the rules of the road and common courtesy. I realize 2 million miles is not much compared to a professional class A driver, but it's still many more than most and I hauled one of the hardest loads to haul, a constantly moving one. Here is what I saw:
I used to think that RI, CT, and MA drivers were the worst for sitting in the left and center lanes, preventing anyone from going faster than them, including the trucks which require the middle lane for their passing land on a three lane road. The law states that all slower moving traffic should be in the farthest right lane. Now, I was wrong which state drivers are the worst. I have to say that FLorida drivers are the worst perpetrators of the "left lane police". They get in the left lane, go whatever speed THEY want, and you can't move them with a case of dynamite. Every day I was on 75, 301, 27, 441, and 95, most times they were parking lots just because of bad driving habits, not accidents. Those drivers that stay out of the left, occupy the middle with the same zealous attitude and will prevent any big rigs from passing. When I inquired why this was so, those who admitted to being a middle lane driver, replied with the same answer. They don't want to deal with people pulling on and off the highway so they don't use the right lane at all. Those who admitted being the LLPD all said, I go fast enough and no one should need to faster than what I'm going! Now on the other end of the spectrum, I give the absolute crazy, dangerous drivers award to the NJ drivers. While on the NJ Turnpike this morning, while doing 80 in the right lane, I was constantly passed by NJ plates easily going 100mph diving and weaving amongst the traffic. Next to NJ is CT for that crazy driver award, with NY coming in 3rd. Along the whole eastern 95 corridor, I was with cars from all states and my statements are based off of the whole trip. I found the FL drivers riding in the left lane and holding back the traffic in every state all the way up to and including MA!

And almost forgot, how "warm" is that pool? It's a little cold to just dive in not knowing!

CT,

I agree with your observation about drivers. Most of my experience out of state is confined to trips to Carlisle and Hershey each year. I have no idea how many miles I've driven since I got my license in 1950. NC has its share of idiots, too.

No one should stay in the passing lane unless they are traveling faster than the posted speed limit. Even those should move over if theres someone following who is driving even faster. This was the subject of another thread and there is no use in going too far on this subject here.

I'm glad you got back to MA safe and sound. Enjoy the pellet machine or whatever that heater is. Does it use goat pellets?

Best,
Charlie

Aaaaa... stop whining. You'll be fine again after digging out from the 18 inches of white stuff greeting you tomorrow in MA. Could have stayed in Florida with all those bad drivers.

Ever notice that anyone going slower than you is an idiot, but anyone going faster is a maniac?
George Carlin

Well, I might have known that if anything could go wrong on this thread right here, it would happen to me. Read on.

Last night it snowed here. We only got about an inch here in Fayetteville, NC. People a-slippin and a-sliding ever which away. Lots of folks in the ditch this morning according to the local radio. This stuff plays holy havoc on us who are not used to it. Police say to stay home if you don't really need to be out. That's me.

So I sitting here with several blankets on, no snow plow, no snow shovel, no pop-tarts and no furnice that eats pellets and gives off heat like CT does. Dang!

So I't thinking about what I've said recently about you folks up north. I don't know what the missus will fix for me to eat tonight but I could us a mess of fried crow.

Hope everyone stays warn and get through this cold spell alright.

Charlie

Charlie, you're making me laugh. I sitting in my recliner right now in front of that pellet eating stove. Nice and toasty warm, drinking a cup of coffee and snacking on some home made cookies from gift packages left over from Christmas. I was out all day in a 85 military blazer plowing snow in our latest batch of the white stuff. Luckily it started as rain as we still got 10 inches but just a few miles away got 17". Being along the coast though means high tides and many places got a lot of coastal flooding. My house is far enough inland that I don't have that problem but of course, places along the ocean in NC see the same sort of thing at times. The weatherman is now saying we're going to be dropping to below zero for the next few days so my pellet eating monster is going to be very hungry. Hope you've got more than crow in your cupboards to eat. Stay warm my friend.

This here foul weather flooding the south is just more Northern Agresssion like in the 1860s.

Speaking of building some walls, maybe we need to build one right smack dab on the Mason-Dixon Line. Or on the border. That's where to trouble starts. I've had a belly-full of cold air coming down here from up there for this year.

I've begun looking around for one of those pellet heaters. Sounds like something that might be a real good thing to have. After all, how much does a sackfull of goat pellets go for? Not much as rabbit pellets, I'd bet. Either one has to be dirt cheap. Right?

Now about that a-plowing snow. Surely there is something indoors you can think of doing that is more rewarding, satisfying and not quite as stressful. Just ask the missus.

Keep warm.

Charlie

Ingore this:

I was sitting here without a pellet heater but with a cup of hot chocolate and musing whilst being snowed in and the outside temperature in the teens. Mercy!

Anyway I was thinking about what my missus said when I ordered a cup of hot chocklate just now. She said I should try to get up off my a-- and get myself. We men don't need to take such back-talk form our misuses. Think about the following:

They are the ones who got us into trouble in the first place. Eating that apple.

They want to be in charge of the house. Fine. Then they should"

a. Take out the stinkin garbage. After all, it accumolates in the kitchen. Their territory. Right?

b. They should not harp on us to do anything with water. No steam ironing, no washing windows, no washing clothes (started when Eve said Adam's loin-cloth stunk and she washed it for him), no washing the car (they drive now) and no cooking what-so-ever. Any man who wears an aproln can't change the oil. Nope.

d. They should not ask us if what that frock they put on makes them look fat. There is no good answer for that. Youre asking for trouble if you answer truefully or lie. Think about it.

e. Never attest to the weight of their pocket-books. It will be heavy. Chewing gum, rudge, lip-stick, couple of candy bars, checkbook, pepper-spray, a gun, hand- granades, etc in there. You'll be surprised. Accordingly, you will be obligated to carry heavy darn thing for her into department stores and outside try-0n fitting stalls where you will be seen by your he-man associates. Fon't do it. (As wagon trains traveled west there were left along the trails, wash-stands, barrels, oxen, pianos, chests, vanities, and dancing slippers but never was there left behing a ladies purse. Go figure.)

f. If she has a sister, and she assks you about whether you think said sister is good-looking, don't answer. It could lead to more misory than you could imagine. Wil too!

g. Above all, do not give her anything for Christmas, Valentines Day, her birthday or weddding anniversary. Better to keep your money in you pocket and buy something for the Man-Cabe or for the old Chevrolet. (Once you give then anything after marrage they will expect it throughout eternity.) She will get over it; you being the hunk that sweep her off her feet and caused her to be smitten by your charm. After marriage whats the point? Saves money for more important things, like accessories for the car. Does too.

h. Use good locks on the Man-Cave. They will try to get in to find out what is such a draw as for you to ignor them. It's important they don't succeed. Booby-traps are not unheard of, but you didn't hear it here.

Charlie

BTW: It will not reflect on your good standing to show this to the missus. So, don't do it. Never ever. Remember they are smarter than you are and they are always skimming. Are to.

Too funny Charlie. Or is it truth? I'll never tell!

Agree

NOtE: Do not read the following. You've been warned. So read at your own risk. My apologies in advance to all our friends across our northern border.

Well, it snowed here last night. Yep. Again. It was only about an inch. Read "a dusting" compared to our friends across our nothern border. We've closed schools, government offices (city, county and state). State patrol says stay home. I'm getting cabin fever already. I've had it. Something is going on. I just know it.

I think I have figured it all out though. It's the Canadians fault. Of all countries they have the highest literacy rate. So it's easy to figure that they are smart enough to pull off the senerio found below. Is too! Read more.

What I figure is going on is that they are in misery and want company. Yes. Think about it. What I think they do about it is this:

Each year around the start of winter they rent a cruise ship or two and make a run down to the Antarctic and recruit a load of penguins with a promise to them of having a good time. A vacation if you will. The Canadians tell those formal wearing birds that they will get a dollar a day and enjoy all the amenities of a super vacation.

Given their natural habitat, what bird in his right mind would turn down a deal like that. (The Canadians also assure them that there will be no time-share spiels and that the polar bears have never seen one and thus don't even know their edible. More incentive to sigh on) Read on.

Those Canadians then take the birds up to their super cooled, icy regions around the north pole and disembark them and let them stand around smoking for a few days or until their feet turn blue. Then they fly those whose feet are so cold that they start dancing down to the Canadian/US border. When they get there they put them in umbrellowed beach chairs with their big feet a-sticking way up in the air until their feet turn back to yellow. Heres the rub. Their cold feet super cool the air flowing down to the thus giving us more cold air than we can stand down here. Meanwhile the Canadians are laughing their heads off. Visualize it! Are too!

The penguins are cycled north to south in as their feet turn color. They are sent back and forth until the spring equinox. Then sufficient cruise ships are rented to take them back home just in time for winter down there. What a deal!

The penguins are happy with this deal because the Canadians feed them all the sardines and Pina colludes they can eat and drink and still get the one dollar a day. When they get back to Antarctica, just think, they can buy all the popsicles they want. They also think the little umbrellas a-sticking out of their drinks are right cute.

I'm going to write to the state department and see if they wont send a reconnaissance expedition up along the / border and have a little look see.

If it is appears there are a multitude of inexplicable tuxedos found along the side of the border then we'll know we're on the right track.

I ani't making this stuff up. What do you think?

Frozen Charlie

BTW: I'm just five miles from where I-95 passes through NC. I went out after the first snowfall and noted the license plates of the cars heading south. All the Canadian plates were all in the left-hand lane and passing everything as if they couldn't get away form fast enough. Who can blame them?

BTW2: The Canadians have thought about the mix of of the birds and decided to invite the male penguins only to embark on this travesty. That's owing to two things:

a. The missuses penguins have to watch the eggs and chicks and keep the habitat spick and span. They are good at it. Why mess with mothr nature?

b. And more importantly, if the Canadians took just the missuses then the clacking noise at the border would be so loud that even the Canadians to wouldn't be able to stand it. You know.

Sorry I'm late to reply, Charlie... but my Personal Penguin was using the computer. You're on to us. Cancel the SR-71 flights over our country to check it out, I'll confess it all now. If only I could get the little bugger to keep the refrigerator door shut now. I think my hydro bill just doubled again...

Charlie you have a warped mind, and I love it. I just ran across one of your stories from 2014 that I had printed out.
It was about PES (Performance Enhancing Stuff} It was a good one also.

Charlie being close to the border I know exactly what you are talking about. As a matter of fact sometimes when near the border I often play cards with my Canadian friends. (usually not high stakes). At a recent game one of those friends ran out of $$ and wanted to continue the game so he put up some of those penguins as collateral. Well as it happened he lost and I ended up with a dozen or so of them. Didn't know what to do with them so I loaded them into the back of my pick-up and my friends suggested taking them to the zoo. I thought that was a good idea and did that. The next day as I headed out a friend asked why the penguins were in the back of the truck again only this time with sunglasses and towels. I explained to him that they had such a good time at the zoo that today I would take them to the beach!!! No cabin fever here.

Steve,

You're even nuttier than I am. Good one. Enjoyed it.

Thanks,

Charlie

The other day my little four year old great granddaughter came to visit. She was bundled up about as much as that little brother in the "A Christmas Story.: It was hard to tell if she was rolling or walking. She marched in with a scowl on her face. I said "Well, Lidia, you look nicely bundled up but it appears you are still cold." As she marched by me at the front door I heard her mumble something. I said "what did you say honey? She took the scarf away from her scowling face and loudly proclaimed "Stinkin' Canadians." At that, I gragged her by the arm and took her to the bathroom where I stuck a bar of soap into her mouth. I gave her a good lecture about saying nice things about our neighbors to the North. Where in the world did she get that?

Charlie

Just thought I'd post this: My in-laws live in the Villages in FL. At the top of their street a couple days ago, at 1:00am in the morning, one of the residents woke to what she thought was a intruder in the house. She found no one but kept hearing strange sounds in her house so she went to her front door and when she opened it, something was blocking it but she couldn't tell what it was. She then went to open the garage door but it wouldn't go up or again she couldn't get out (mother in law wasn't exactly clear on that) so she called 911 on her cell. When the police arrived they found her house had sunk into a one of 5 or 6 sinkholes that appeared all at the same time in the same general area! They had to break a window at the rear of the house (the only part out of the hole enough to get her out) and then the house continued to sink about 30' down! So, I'll stay sitting up here in my recliner, in snowy NE, in the cold, with that goat pellet eating, heat making stove, while those "sunturds" (my nickname for those constantly out in the FL sun, they're so brown and shriveled up that they look just like a turd) keep that FL to themselves! While I'm making light of the situation, it is pretty scary stuff and nothing to laugh at. She has not been allowed in the house since and the two houses next to her had to be evacuated plus the street is closed!

Christech Your mother in law is lucky she heard the odd noises in that case if the doors were blocked at that stage there wasnt much more time for her to be rescued, at 30ft it would be difficult to rescue much else.
Tony

How could she ever be allowed in the house ...... if it sank 30 feet ?

Well, Chistech, some times it is just worth it to roll tlhe dice.

I wouldn't call those people turds but merely smart northerners. They weighed the plusses and minuses and come to the conclusion that it would be better to take the chance of suddely having a sinking feeling than the assurance of being stuck inside and sipping something and listening to the stove crackle.

Florida does have some sink holes but they are relatively few compared to the many benefits that come with a warm beaches, playgrounds, golf and bikinis year round. What does the north have? Answer: Freezing and Snow. Almost year-round . I could go on but ... you know.

Charlie

Here in New England we're only cold about 3-4 months a year. Hands down, we have the best seafood with real lobster (not the clawless spiny warm water ones), sweet bay scallops right off the beach, great soft shell clams, fresh cod, haddock, and the list goes on. Hell, half the boats from your state come up this way to fish for that reason. I live in the next town over to the #1 fishing port in the whole USA, including Alaska. We also don't have gators, brown recluse spiders, cotton mouths, or black widows. No fire ants, no scorpions, no black panthers, and no wild boa constrictors either. We have pristine spring water from the mountains, huge deer to hunt right out the back door, and four real seasons. We are badly infested with a particular political party but that is as far as I'll go as the moderator will holler at me. We do get 3-6 snow storms a year with one or two being on the big side and a few that don't amount to much. We can get hurricanes but it's far and few compared to a "few too many" that hit down south usually. Rarely do we get droughts, bugs infestations, or floods, but we're not immune to them.
I still can't be convinced that a few weeks of cold is worth moving away from NE when the grass seems a hell of a lot browner elsewhere. I can always put on clothes to get warm but once I'm stripped down to bare skin, I can't get any cooler. Another thing is now the south has a bunch of that political party infestation that's moved down there so I hope they keep going and I'll be staying here!

The house was up the street from her, not her house.

Still lucky though.
Tony

CT,

You have bragged to the point that I must post a come-back. So you have a total of the following:

a. Some lobsters (with claws)

b. Spring water. (from the mountains)

c. Soft-shell Clams. (I admit that I never herard of that food. Soft-shell crabs, yes but clams no)

d. Fresh Cod. (I thought they had been fished to extension. Hmmm)

e. Haddock (Never had that. But if it's like flounder we have a pleather a of them down here. Had a mess of them the other night.)

f. Deer (Really big ones) (Wow! Ours may not be as big but we have so many that they are a neusense.

Well, the above is about it. All the rest was things you didn't have.

Here is something we don't have much of down here. This was a Maine State Trooper. The gentleman he stopped didn't sound too much like a southerner. I'm not a linguist but the stopped individua's accent sounded just like my brother-in-laws's and he was from Boston. See the cite below:

Charlie



BTW: I have chosen to edit the above post. I merely want to point out that some of our polotiitions down here in the South are right on top of things. Just imagine the navy trying to pull a fast one on us. We are ever viligent for such gamesmanship. It is really hard to get something past our elected leaders. For instance:

Wow that State Trooper was very professional. It is hard to imagine it did not end up with night stick lumps.

Dave