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Making progress on my engine swap - 216 in a 1947 to a 235 in a 1947.
However, seems like questions keep popping up.

Here is the next: There is the front mount in the front of the engine. No problem - will drill the new engine to fit.

There is the mount on the transmission. Seems to be no problem.

However, the mounts coming off the lower corner on both sides of the bell housing are not there.

Should they be there? The mount is missing on the bell housing but there are two mounts on the frame opposite of where the mount on the bell housing should be

Where do I go now? I cannot seem to find replacement mounts for the bell housing hook - up May have to make my own.

Thanks for any thoughts.


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The brackets AND MOUNTS must be on the bell housing. They prevent the engine from twisting under power. The brackets fit 1937-1948 cars.....Do you mean the brakets were ot on the '47 bell housing which you are reusing? If not there the engine was probably replaced once before.


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That is what I am thinking. The brackets are not on the housing - either side - however, there are partial brackets on the frame on both sides.

Question -where would you suggest I find them to purchase OR should I make my own?

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Ranger:

The brackets and rubber mounts were missing on my 48 when I got it. I managed to get the missing parts from Bruce Bugay in Virginia - who's probably still on this forum. The "M' Shaped rubber mounts are available from COT40s, etc. You also might reach out to the fella that's selling a bunch of 47 parts recently on this forum - he may have the brackets and mounts as well.

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This has been a long trip. Pulled the 216 and began to harvest the transmission, bell housing, etc from the 216 and transfer those over to the 235.

Question: While cleaning up the transmission I noticed the following.
The end that goes into the bell housing has just a little wobble to it and the other end the universal joint has movement up and down and back and forth on the center point.

Is that normal or okay. I am thinking that once the U.V. joint is connected to the drive shaft that will keep the U.V. joint centered.

Is that good thinking - any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!


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Don't overlook those bell housing mounts, when you get to that point. dance



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I'm trying to remember...it's been that far back...I'm sure I made my own, though...I believe I think I welded them up from solid steel...And I recall it made for a rougher ride...Might have added some rubber...


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The input shaft for the transmission goes into the pilot bushing in the end of the crankshaft.

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Thank you for the imput.

I was concerned about the wobble at the imput end - that should be controlled by the pilot bushing.

And the play in the universal joint toward at the end of the tranny. That should be controlled when installed as well.

I have the pilot bushing and the motor mounts. The middle mounts were missing when I pulled the engine. However, I found a pair and that will be taken care of shortly.

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I find it very interesting that as I proceed further and further into this project the MORE problems I find facing me.

Motor mounts missing or different then what they are supposed to be.
Transmission linkage that has been fabricated to be much different from the original.

New gaskets needed almost everywhere and piles of grease that has to be scrapped off.

Oh well, I wanted a winter project. I may get it done by next winter.

This all takes a lot of time.

No - I am not complaining - just saying.......


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"I find it very interesting that as I proceed further and further into this project the MORE problems I find facing me".

Much like daily life, don't ya think ?

Before you know it, you'll be running up and down the highway, burning rubber, just having a good ole time. dance



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Hey Ranger......welcome to the world of WBO....Work By Others newangel

Stick with it, it will all work out in the end.


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Old cars...Gotta love them or they just end up with bullet holes in 'em...


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Why would transmission linkage be different if you are using the same 1947 tranmmission.
Either type of the side motor mounts will work.


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Thanks Gene - and you are right.

Got the mounts and the linkage is fine.

Chalk it up to: old age - slow mind - stupity - or??


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Waiting for the leveler to come for the cherry picker.

In the mean time, on goes the flywheel (had it ground) - no I did not forget the pilot bushing - then the clutch - then the bell housing - starter - then the tranny and then the engine is going into the 1947.

It has been a long haul - the only thing that yet concerns me is whether or not I have the distributor in the way you friends have instructed me to follow.

Thanks for all your help. Will keep you updated.


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Today I installed the flywheel - the clutch - the pressure plate, etc.

Have to wait until Monday to attach the Transmission. Getting it worked on this Saturday.

The directions for the clutch installation said to look for the X Hand-crank the engine until the "X" mark on the flywheel is at the bottom. Install the clutch disc, pressure plate, and cover assembly and support them with the clutch pilot tool. Turn the clutch assembly until the "X" mark on the clutch cover lines up with the "X" mark on the flywheel, Fig. 117. Then install the attaching bolts.

I searched and searched and all I found were the words install this side facing the flywheel.

Should I be concerned? I attached the pressure plate to the flywheel as instructed. Each bolt tightened a little at a time all the way around.

Well, in any case - will have the engine compartment painted and engine at least in place by next Tuesday.

Getting closer!


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Don't worry about the "X"....That was done when the original pressure plate and flywheel were used and balanced together. Once you change and replace parts that all out the window.


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Thank you - I was thinking about taking it apart and rechecking.

Thanks for your expertise!


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Well everything is just about ready to install the engine.
Engine - bell-housing - new clutch - transmission attached.

Will finish the engine compartment in the next day or so. Painting the compartment and then the installation.

My wife says - clear out the garage before you try to start the car OR
push the car out into the driveway. Why? Just in case it blows up you will not destroy the other vehicles in the garage.


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Sounds like your wife is a very wise woman. Good advice for sure. dance

Best of luck!


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I am not worrying so much about putting the engine back in the car.

I do have a concern as too how the transmission connects itself to the
drive shaft tube. All I can do is be sure the end of the tranny starts into the drive shaft tube and HOPE it lines its self up?

Not sure how that will work out!


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If the splines don't align just turn a rear wheel slightly and that will rotate the drive shaft. It will not be a problem.


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Thank you - that helps -you know how you worry about things!


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