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hey guys I am having trouble with my ignition. the 31 has been running great , then a week ago I had it idling and it stalled. it would not restart. so today I had some time to check it out and I found that the paper insulator behind the points had burned up. I replaced the paper insulator with a new one I got from the FS. that one also burned up after a couple of cranks. any ideas? I seem to remember that when I first got the car and got it running that there was a piece of cardboard behind the paper insulator. not sure though. all help appreciated
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There is a rectangular paper insulator that attaches to the terminal stud on the electrolock inside of the distributor goes between the point arm spring and the side of the distributor body. The insulator is horizontal. There is also a square paper insulator that is bent at 90 degrees. It also attaches to the terminal stud on the electrolock inside of the distributor and half of the paper insulator is vertical and the other half is horizontal. The horizontal part of the insulator keeps the 10-32 terminal nut and the metal spacer behind it from touching the breaker plate. Make sure that your electrolock cable is not touching the terminal on the starter switch. If it does touch that will create a direct short.   
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Thanks JD-
should have mentioned that I am not running the electrolock, mine was shot and a repop at that. one of the extra motors I got with the car had a stud setup in the hole in the distributer. so I copied it and the car ran fine for awhile. now it seems to be grounding out at the stud only when the points are installed. has anyone used a setup other than the stock electrolock to run the car? does someone sell or make a conversion of some sort?
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also -
where else can I get points. FS only has the NOS ones and I already burned up 2 sets. I am looking for the less expensive ones.
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Your points should not burn up! Are you converted to 12 volt? Maybe you need a resistor or something.Your coil must not be resistorized.
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You can purchase new points from your local NAPA store. No one makes a conversation that I am aware of.
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burnt up may be an over statement. there is a dead short where the points arm attaches to the stud I have not investigated further yet.
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You need to find the short first. If you are using paper that is not water proof then it may be the problem. I have used several different insulating materials to keep the 6 volt power from grounding. If there is an high resistance the heat may be melting a plastic part resulting in the ground.
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JD yeah I thought so to but with out the points installed there is no short only when I install the points.
Chipper I was using cardboard as. I ran out of the plastic covered ones from fs. It is getting closer to just getting an electrolock from you. Do you also have all the fiber washers and stuff fo install ?
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You should be able to locate the short with a multimeter and avoid burning up the points. NORS points may be available from Marx Parts ( www.marxparts.com 715-652-2405)ask for Bob.
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I have cut a rattle paint can cap that is the same diameter as the distributor body. You can cut three insulators that are "L" shaped and then drill hole for the stud. Waxed paper, even a couple of thickness of file folder can be used. The slicker the paper the better.
The insulator for the hole in the distributor is a bit tougher. I make them from nylon rods. Have used other plastics in the past.
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A 20 oz POP bottle works great for making the insulator. Also the points to get from the Filling Station are cheaper then getting them from NAPA. Your problem is the insulator is moving on you when installing the points.
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A 20 oz POP bottle works great for making the insulator. ??????? Also the points to get from the Filling Station are cheaper then getting them from NAPA. By the time you pay shipping the price is about the same.
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OK JYD.....so what is the ??????? for? 
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I have used a nylon insulator for screws used on a heat sink. Work great.....Usually found here: https://sdp-si.com/eStore/CoverPg/Hardware.htmMac
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