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CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING #232993
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February 2, 2012:
As may be recalled from the Chat Group Chapter (NGC) Annual Meeting this past December there was a discussion concerning the Chapter By-Laws. A conflict became apparent with the term limits for the office of Treasurer. There were other possible conflicts as well. The outgoing NGC Director Ken Napiokowski (Ken48) asked for a By-Law review by a committee consisting of Anthony Williamson (tonyw), and Ray Gadomski (rgwiz), and Lee Esparza (37Blue). Recommended amendments, if any, were to be subject to Chapter approval per the By-laws.
Since then the committee and Ken48 has discussed potential changes. It was concluded the only amendment necessary is to the Treasurer term limit by-law conflict. As we are presently operating the Chapter is in violation of its By-laws. The recommended amendment was submitted to the NGC Board of Directors for review and approval. Having received their concurrence, the amendment is now being provided to all NGC members for review, comment and a subsequent vote.

The By-law section in conflict is Article III Section 2 Term Subsection A. It now reads: “To promulgate rotation in office, no Officer may serve, in similar capacity more than two terms in any four-year period”. Furthermore, Article III Officers Section 2. Term; specifies that officers serve a one year term. That By-Law stipulation complicates practical operations and would create additional banking fees to set up new accounts upon each rotation. In addition, recent history has shown reluctance by members to volunteer for office or agree to being nominated for the various officer positions.

PROPOSED AMENDMENT:

It is proposed that Section 2 Subsection A be amended to say:
“To promulgate rotation in office, no Officer; other than Treasurer, may serve, in similar capacity more than two terms in any four-year period. The two year term of the Treasurer may be extended by affirmation of a majority vote."

NGC MEMBERS ACTION REQUESTED: Review and Voting

REVIEW: I am asking that you as a member of the NGC review this recommendation. If there are questions or concerns please respond via the NGC Chat Forum in this thread. This review and comment period will begin now and end when voting begins on Sunday February 12, 2012.

VOTING: During the period Sunday February 12, 2012 and ending on Wednesday February 29, 2012 Chapter members will be asked to vote on accepting or rejecting the amendment. A separate thread, also in the NGC Chat Forum, will be started at that time to ease vote recording and tabulation.

Respectfully,
Lee Esparza (37Blue),
Chat Group Chapter (NGC) Director

Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233008
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This is a common sense ammendment. I support it.


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: ken48] #233022
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I also support the amendment


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: MrMack] #233036
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i too support the amendment.mike

Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233052
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Common sense by-law change, I support it.


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: Chipper] #233071
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Agree and will cast my vote at the appropriate time.


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: jerrygolf] #233074
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Sounds good to me!

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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: Junkyard Dog] #233085
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I cast an affirmative vote!


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233092
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So far it seems unanimous and I agree as well.
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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: tonyw] #233109
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Can't you use these posts in counting the votes? You can just call it "Early Voteing"


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233116
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Looks fine for me.

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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: Solan] #233124
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auto I am for the amendment as presented. Beamer


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: Beamer] #233134
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I agree too! iagree


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 1931Sal] #233219
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I agree.


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: MrMack] #233239
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I am inclined toward accepting Mack's idea concerning counting the "early voting" ballots. I'd like to hold off making a decision on that until this comment period ends, however. His idea seems to make good sense and would improve the efficiency of the process.

In the mean time, if anyone has a dissenting opinion regarding the amendment proposal OR "early voting" ballot concept, please weigh in.

We, as of this morning have 12 early votes recorded as accepting the proposal. We need at least 20 to approve.

As may be recalled our By-laws indicate balloting concerning an amendment must be open for a minimum of two weeks; (Article VII, Section 1). I think we have plenty of time.

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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233341
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As I suggested in my PM I personally dont care if the early votes are counted as there is a record of them being cast though not neccessarily in the "voting season" but I feel to keep all appearing above board the votes should really be counted from only the "season".

I also noticed there are 2 ARTICLE V11, looks like our proof reader had a slight slip.

Tony


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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 37Blue] #233384
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I agree with amendment as posted

Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: sonny,vcca#42768] #233418
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I agree with the proposed amendment.

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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: 42bill] #233562
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Looks like I am one of the very few members that has not responded to the amendment change.
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Re: CALLING ALL NGC MEMBERS TO A SPECIAL MEETING [Re: JAR41] #233642
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I agree on the proposed change too.


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I also agree with the proposed change.

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Come on members of this group. Where are you? We still need a few more votes to reach a quorum. If we can't scare up enough members for something like this, maybe we have outlived our purpose. Beamer


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Thanks, Beamer! We will need as many members as we can get to VOTE; when voting starts.

Let me be clear about this thread and the voting.

Official voting will be done beginning Sunday February 12th and end Wednesday February 29th. A special ballot using a Poll feature will be used

The ballot is already posted, but locked until then. That means Chat Group members can see it now, but can not start voting until Sunday. See the separate thread "By-law Amendment Voting 2/12-29/2012 ONLY" in the Chat Group forum.

Bill Barker has helped us initiate this polling feature, which will make tabulation easier and help in communications. The Chat Group Chapter is pioneering this concept for what could be the way we conduct future voting on chapter business. If, it proves successful it may well serve other non-geographical chapters in the future.



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i agree (again).mike

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Agree

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