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So I would like to know what's the correct spotlight for my 48 and after looking on the web I've seem to find myself in the same spot of not being sure. Anyone know if they are year specific? I currently have a unity s 5 which I most certain is not correct. Any help in this would greatly be appreciated.

Chevrolet odffered a 5 7/8" Unity and a Unity with a sealed beam unit.
Also a 5 9/16" Guide and a Guide with a sealed beam.
I don't have he measurements for the sealed beam models.
So you think there is confusion?

My question is: Do you really want to drill that hole, and have that thing hanging off the side of your beautiful car...?

I think he already has a spot light on his car, just looking for the correct one for his year.

Does kinda look that way, huh...?

I know what you mean about drilling the hole. I had a very nice spotlight for my '46 Wagon, but just could not get myself to drill the hole. I sold the light at the Tahoe swap meet so I won't be tempted again!!

Yep already have one on just curious on which one for my car. I think I would have drilled the hole either way. Looked at my fog lights and they are also the unity manufacturer and from what chev nut said, unity was one they used. I guess I'll stick with what I have.

The correct fog lights for a 1946-1948 is a Guide with a small 4 5/8" lens.

Thanks to Gene I have a nice set of guide fog lights on my 48!!!!And as I know some do not appreciate spot lights but I have the correct 48 guide spot light as well

CC,

Congratulations on havine the correct spotlight. It looks reall good. Nothing looks worse that those fake ones that you put on both sides of the car.

The wood still looks good. Yep!

There is nothing positive I can say about those chrome mountings seen behind the spotlight. Sorry. I'll never understand the thinking that goes on in the mind of someone who thinks sticking one of those stinkin things on a beautiful 48 or earlier Chevrolet, such as you have, an improvement. We must do more to educate the masses on art appreciation. The first axiom n such art appreciation develement is learning that sometimes "More is less." Seems to me the Fulton, et al, lovers are in the caryon stage of development. You too! NO OFFENSE INTENDED. JUST TRYING TO HELP. AM TOO!

Best,
Charlie

Charlie, thanks for some of your statements and I know you personally hate the Fulton visor...But I will need to battle you over the art appreciation statement....The Fulton is a perfect match for the Chevy Fleetline and its round sloped body....The lines are quite attraction and for many, it is said the Fulton inproves the look of the car...besides being a very successful Chef I am a fine artist and sculptor and feel my opinion is a valid one...... Sorry Charlie

CC,

I concede the point. You opinion is just as good as mine. Maybe even better owing to the fact ahat you own the car. I just don't like "um while some do.

I was wondering what GM accessories you have for your car. I would be interested in you listing them. For instance do you have the 48 radio or the 47? Do you have the right electric clock? Do you have the accessory hubcaps? Heater? Etc. I'm asking partly with an interest in helping you find any accessories you desire. It is the least I can do after "bad-mouthing" your Fulton so severely.

Let me know. I have an electric clock still in the box. I think they are rather common though.

Best,
Charlie

Again: You have a beautiful car abd that wood really sets it off to make it "spectacular" as used in "Sienfield" (sp) on one notable episode.

My 48 has a Unity spotlight on it. It was there when I bought it.
The bulb is 5 inches. This is the exposed glass area. It is a sealed beam. # 4535 30W 6-8V. Here is a picture of the bulb.
http://www.bulbconnection.com/ViewSIMItem/bcrw/simid/1803/item.html
Have thought about installing another one on the passenger side, but haven't yet.

Keith, I second guess my self all the time about the addition of the spot light....."Back in my accessary addition days"...The light is correct and I have restored it well but it does not do justice to look of the car...no turning back though

Charlie, I have a NOS clock in the box...The box is in good shape and says "Electric Pannel Clock"....When I removed the clock from the box the only wire I find is to the light....30 hour wind up. Yes......If you have the real Electric Clock. Lets talk please,thanks



Charlie here's my box...But the "New Clock" inside is wind up...Maybe has to do with the part no.being reposted ???

It was common for the dealer to replace the standard equipment spring wound clock with an eletric and put the spring wound clock in the eletric box. Then it got put back on the shelf and forgotten.

Charlie, it will be a much shorter list if you ask Bruce to list the accessories he does NOT have for the '48!

Russell you may be right....To get the real electric clock, I will do what it takes
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I will have to do this at home with my accessary book in hand....Yeah I'm at work...I know I said I would retire soon...Greed has set in once again

The number of accessories I have from the 48 book is 29 I would like to post all the actual pictures...Will take some time

I would just like to see the names listed.

Charlie,send me a PM,I would like to discuss the clock you have no need for,thanks

So after reading all the responses, is it my understanding that it goes by size of bulb? Or is there a model number I can look for? Example Guide 21xxx.

This is the bulb I use in my Guide Spot Light #1323...You can get it from COT40s....When I 1st tried to replace the original bulb, I had to be very careful and work at it slowly...The bulb was pretty much frozen in place

Just got an email from ebay and it shows this.Little pricey

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122193605359?ul_noapp=true Spotlights.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122193569929?ul_noapp=true Bulb

So Keith what are you going to do???The set is real nice!!!I would only buy 1....Better then mine when I first got it, I had to plate the head, the rest is pretty good though .....For the Real Accessary Junky...Those will be scooped up soon

Probably not do anything. Sure not buying new ones. I have two or three in the garage. Not spending that kind of money on them. Have a few other things to do before spotlight on passenger side. Did not know there is a right and left.

For Charlie and Gene,as requested...If you can help complete my list, I would do and or "pay" what it takes...I'm sure Johnny Johnson has them all

All of the below are N.O.S.or restored originals. No reproductions aloud..."other then some electrical components"


De Luxe Radio
Cowl-Type Radio Antenna
Fender Guards "Wrap arounds,front and back"
Grille Guard,front
Trunk Guard
Guide Safety light, "spotlight"
Auxiliary Lights "Fog Lights"
Back-Up Lamp"light"
Luggage Compartment Lamp
Rear View Mirror, glare control
R.D.Mirror"peep mirror"
Vanity Visor Mirror
Hood Ornament"accessary"
De Luxe Steering Wheel 'banjo"
Wheel Trim Rings
License Plate Frame"telescoping"
Locking Gas Tank Cap
Directional Signal
Windshield Washer
Ash Receiver (cowl)
Cigarette Lighter
Right-Hand Sun Visor
Hand-Wind Instrument Panel Clock
Combination Arm Rest And Door Pull
Glove Compartment Lamp
Heater Thermostat
Overflow Return Tank
Front And Rear Compartment Heater "under seat"
Universal Jack
Fuel Filter Unit "durex"

??? AC Oil Filter Canister??? was this dealer installed??

I must not forget the Fender skirts....Another item not in the accessary book

I hate to spoil your fun but the following are not accessorie on a Fleetmaster/Fleetline. They are standard equipment.

Ash reciever if it is the center of dash type.
Cigarette lighter
Right sun visor
Hand wind clock
front door arm rests
Glove compartment lamp
Heater thermostat if it is a 143 Deg., anything hotter was an accessory.

For the most part the items listed are an accessory for a Stylemaster.

AC oil filter could be a factory option or dealer installed but was never listed as an accessory but I think it would be legal to call it an accessory as that is how the dealer would have invoiced it.

Chevrolet only listed a left spotlight. The right was the same except for the brackets. If you have a Unity, Unity did sell a right bracket package but Chevrolet dod not offer it.
I know of a winning 1941 convertible with all the possible accessories and it has a right spotlight. In my estimation it should be considered incorrect as no R.H. parts were listed in Chevrolet material.

Gene, I noted the same things. CC may have tryed to slip one by the unsuspecting here merely to extend and, thus, make the list more impressive. Still, lots of nice accessories CC.

Was the gas filter an accessory? If so, did it have to be a Durex or could it have been a Carter or AC?

CC, the 47/48 electric clock is trading material for a 41 electric one. Thanks for your interest.

Charlie

The Durex was a GM Division (Moraine) product. A version of it was the accessory filter Chevrolet sold from 1946-1954. Prior to 1946 hevrolet did not offer a filter and also in 1955. From 1956 and up they sold the AC filter....AC also being a division of GM.

Fender skirts are in the 1948 parts book. Accessory #985873 for the non Fleetline and 985874 for the Fleetline. Years covered 1942-1948.

Gene all the items listed I do have and are all are in the 1948 accessory catalog.Iwould think that would be validation?PS the skirts are not in my accessary catalog

They are in the accessory list for the models that do not come with them as standard equipmet. Look at your sales literature and those items will be listed as standard equipment for Fleetmaster and Fleetline..
As an example a R.H. sunvisor and front door arm rests would need to come in three different trim colors to match the interior on all three series.
There are a number of thins not listed in the accssory books but are in the parts books.

Note that Chevrolet called fender skirts "cover, rear fender wheel" in some accessory lists. In the parts book they are call "Streamliners".

Yes a lot of people use a left spotlight for the right and just use a right side bracket but that's not correct. The handle ends up pointing towards the glove box and is in the way the correct right hand spotlight s-16 handle will point towards door. I rewire and restore a lot of these

So just picked up a pair of nos left and right s16 spotlights and was wondering if anyone has a template that I could buy a copy from so I can have my passenger side spotlight mounted? Thanks.

I have heard the the guide s16 is for 1942-46 and s18 is 1947-48 is this correct?

Are not the S16 and S18 Unity lights?
The early books list a Unity for 1948 with a GM Guide coming out mid year.

I could be wrong but I think the Unity Lights were numbered S5...S6...not in the teens

Why in the world would anyone want to put a right hand spot light on any car other than Sheiiff Andy Taylor's patrol car? More is less, as in Fultons favored by those uneducated in the finer arts. Marcy!

think about this:

a. One drifing/passing light.

b. One spotlight.

c. One backup light (up to 49/50).

d. One radio antenna (up to 57).

e. One exhaust pipe (up to 55)

f. One carburetor (up to 58)

g. One pair of dice.

h. One wabble head.

i. One girl. (Blonde perferred) (No women)

You're welcome,

Charlie

Chevy of the 40s sells the template easy to use

Was about to ask again for a lead thanks, Ralph9577 sent you a pm.

I was going to e-mail you a copy of the template, but could not open my photo bucket.....

Charlie.....

J. Country Club Wood Trim Package....

Your Welcome

CC,

You got me there! I plum forgot that great accessory.

Yes, definitely that. The only exception would be for a "show car." The points deduction may cause great disappointment. There should be no points deduction for an item that so enhances the beauty of a car as does the wood siding. Even an unauthorized one. Note two of something that makes no sense and incorrect and Fultons do not fit this catagory.

If one is determined to show a nice 47/48 fleetline then the only thing to do is ease the wood off just before entering the car. I don't know if that is feasible or not or even practical but that way you would be deducted only a relative few points for a few small bolt holes that are hardly noticeable. Jealous other 47/48 fleetliners may squeal on you and point out the holes to the judges. Alternately, they definitely will point out the wood, as well. Heck fire.

What to do, what to do?

Charlie

BTW: If you were willing to give up the wood after having seen the size and quality of the trophy, you could bring along a sack full of conscientiously engaged, starving termites. Just another way to make that beautiful wood disappear posthaste. You're welcome.

Charlie....
A few small bolt holes????? Try 50 or so...Not a few my friend...Although I have a passion in knowing the 48 is authentic!!! In the VCCA I already have a senior oval and have received gold awards"975 and up" every time it has been Judged...Outside the VCCA the trophy's are big and the participants seen to admire the 48 more...So what ever the fate of the CC kit, there will be happy fans.....
...Keep the faith baby!!!
You're Welcome

So which is correct for the 42-46 and 47-48 s16 or s18?

To be honest I thought the S18 was the one with the mirror attached....The S16 is the one that Gene was referring to that came out in mid 1948.....Maybe the S18 is the earlier Light???

like this???

The s-16 actually came out in late 30's They stopped making B-L-C versions in 42 but guide continued s-16 models after war . There is a lot of history on them that changed everything I thought I knew about them. B-L-C ( Brown-lipe-Chapin) were a division of guide supplying the eastern part of us. In 1945 B-L-C only made bumper guards and hubcaps.

Here's a set I just finished restoring