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We have to be careful and do our research as completely as we can. Not all parts on these Chevrolets had part numbers listed in the parts books. They did have manufacturing part numbers but those generally were not available to either Chevrolet dealers or repair facilities. Tires, tubes, some fasteners are examples. So were the 90 deg. wear irons on Chevy pickups. Look in some of the assembly manuals to find examples. So literature available to us may not tell the complete story.

Some limited options required contacting the factory in order to get replacement parts, etc.

[color:#FFFF66][/color]Still waiting for my G&D [/quote]

Wow, I know you live in Wisconsin but still no G&D!

Dick

Lookng back at the pictures it is a reprint....but done with GM's permission. Also Chevrolet would not have permitted the use of the Chevrolet Bow Tie if it was not printed//published by Chevrolet in 1948.
And only Chevrolet would have used a dark green coupe with no white walls for a picture.
Now the next Question is, is it legal for a 1947?

That is not entirely true. A Parts book of the same year of the vehicle is what you want to use. Later parts books that were published a couple of years after the car was manufactured contain parts that cover several years of applications and replace the original part that was initially issued from the factory.

I don't totally agree with the above because there were some independent companies that made accessories for a specific year that were not made by Chevrolet, nor offered by Chevrolet, but yet the accessory items had the Chevrolet bow-tie. Some of the companies were licensed by GM and some were not.

Boy, that's a good question.

I was under the impression that the parts and accessory book was the VERIFICATION for any parts on our classic cars.

The parts books only contain the parts offered by Chevrolet for replacement of those originally installed. Many are exactly the same as the original parts. Some are only offered as an assembly and not individual parts, seats are an example. Other parts are not offered in the part distribution system and therefore not in the books.

The parts books from the year of manufacture are in most cases the best. However some parts may not be listed until the next year. Examples are emblems and some trim parts. If there is more than one edition in a given year the later book often contains more part listings than the earlier one. That can be good or bad. If you have an early production vehicle the later book may not accurately list all the parts on your vehicle as some parts might have been changed. Low volume parts often are only listed for a short time (like upholstery). Often some parts have been upgraded or changes so relying on a later year can be risky.

The bottom line is that consulting multiple years parts books from a few years prior to production and several years after production will give the most accurate information.

If one looks closely at the 3 cars pictured on the brochure (folder)they are in my opinion all 1947s. There is a gap between the top piece of wood and the belt molding. When the kit is on a 48 the top wood touches molding due to the 48 molding is wider than the 47. Also, the 1st page of the installation instructions I have says "For converting 1947-48 Chevrolet Aero Sedan to Custom Country Club Model".
I would think it possible that a dealer could still have some 47 models when the 48s came out and a buyer asking for the kit to be installed on his/her new 47.
Dick

You are correct. I did not get my G&D and don't have all the pictures but in the coupe picture the window reveal moulding are of the 1947 type.

I got mine over a week ago. Maybe someone thought they needed it more than you do. Here is a like to the internet copy.
http://vcca.org/members/vccadocs/GDflip/201511/index.php

Here you go Gene

OK - My G&D came today.
You had these pictures and instructions all this time?
I will say this was with Chevrolet's blessing as the bow tie was allowed in the picture.
I am sure this is enough documentation to satisfiy VCCA judging rules. DTM should comment soon.

The Fleetline in the picture appears to have a grille T bar
The Maroon Fleetline in the G&D picture is eith a 1947 with a T bar or a 1948 with a 1947 hood emblem.(top of page)

I am a bit excited but will wait until Mr Miner gives his blessing?

As with all good fairy-tails, this one has a happy ending!!!

But... we need to know what Kate based the '47 comment on?

"Yes it would if it is in Chevrolet material....which would be the the documentation.
On the other side if it was Engineered Enterprises that came around and made the contract with dealers to give them the exclusive right to sell their product and Chevrolet was not involved (which I believe was the case) it would be a different story".

Based on your earlier comments above, are you saying you believe the kit would be considered a "factory accessory", without GM part numbers ?

If the wood kit would now be considered a "factory accessory".... but still being from an aftermarket source, that could open the flood gates for any non GM accessory, without a GM part number, which has been advertised with the GM Chevy bowtie attached to the ad.

I like the looks of the wood kit, but seems to be a risky position for VCCA judging to take, without modifying the "factory accessory criteria".

If a guy shows up with a continental kit on his car, with a bowtie ad, he's OK, as well.

In my time here, trying to muddle through the VCCA judging process, I was led to believe the GM part number was the legitimate "birth certificate" for VCCA, while judging the authenticity and correct application of same part. If VCCA judges could document the part number for that part and that specific year vehicle, all was considered to be valid.

Perhaps my thinking is all wrong, regarding legitimate parts and their numbers, in relation to VCCA judging.

Confusing now.

IF non GM parts are to be considered acceptable for VCCA judging, the judging manual will need to reflect that concern, to keep everyone on the same page, with the new changes..

Here is a good pic of the fliers front page verbiage



Here is the fine print



It is my thought that the
sketches were the design given to the vendor so they could fab the wood kit, that being part of the reason for the disclaimer

It is interesting to note that the flyer appears to be from Engineered Enterprises and not Chevrolet.

Is it possible Chevrolet did not want to take full responsibility of possible failure of this project...As we know ,although great looking,sales were dismal

What is the difference in the hood emblem between a 47 & 48?

The wings on the 48 are higher then the bow tie

I call it a 48 due to the width of the belt molding and the top wood piece of the CC Kit looks like it touches the molding. But, the word CHEVROLET on the top bar of the grille is black and I believe it is red on a 48. So what we have here is a car that can't make up it mind what year it wants to be.

Dick

Dick,you are correct

Did anyone get a response from Kate?