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Did the 48 car have pinstriped wheels?I have never seen any with striping,,,chef-
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I don't know about all 48 Chevrolets but the 48 Fleetline our son has does have three stripes on the wheel. One goes through the valve stem hole and the other two are on the hub part. They are 1/4 " wide. This is an original vehicle with original paint.
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Thanks Back Roads,as I thought,the wheels I have, have the stripes and they would be argent silver on my black 48....I was amazed to see how poorly the stripes were originally painted on these wheels..chef-
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Argent silver with black wheels would be correct. That is what mine are and they look great. I'm assuming you are using the small hubcap. Do you have the correct beauty rings? Are you using 16" wheels of the option 15"? If you would like I can email a picture of the wheel I just finished. Back Roads beat me to the answer. I can't wait till I'm retired!!!
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VCCA Son,would love to see your completed wheels..I have 16" with the small moon caps and rings,I made a pretty good template of the old stripes before blasting and hope to get the stripes back to their proper location after black paint..pics would be great,thanks,chef-
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Wheel striping mentioned in Bob Adlers article in the last G&D page 26.Note top picture on that page..1/2 ton trucks with 15" and 16" passenger car wheels used the same stripe as all passenger cars. (not all trucks had stripes).
The stripes are about 3/8" wide (Bob states a little under 1/4").The space between the two stripes is about 1/16".The space between is mid way between the edge of the hub cap and the little dip in the hub of the wheel-This places the distance of the stripe from the hub cap equal to the space of the outter stripe from the little depression in the wheel hub. The outter single stripe on the rim passes thru the valve stem hole.
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How I missed the article,I don't know???When I measured the origanal stripes I got 2 slightly different sizes by about a 1/16th,I'm sure the intent was to make them the same.VCCA Son do you have a modern paint code for the Argent silver?I the know the rally wheel silver was suggesed to be used in the past??chef-
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My 3/8" should have been 3/16". :confused: ...and all three stripes were the same width.
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I have used; for wheel striping; One Shot Silver striping paint. One Shot ( brand name ) is a sign painters paint. This work good with a Bugler striping tool or with a free hand brush. If you can not find it send me a private email and I'll check in to getting it for you. It is available in 1/2 pint cans. I also used this laying on a stipe on a PT Cruiser. Looks great with the red body color!
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You can get the paint at Eastwood Company, also the Bugler striping tool and good Mack pinstriping brushes. What method are you going to use to paint the wheel stripes? Are your wheels 16" or 15"?... I don't remember when they went to 15" I have a couple of '51 15" extra wheels with the original stripes, I don't remember how many I just remember one. Come to think of it, I don't remember much at all! It couldn't be because I celebrated my 68th B.D day before yesterday...could it?
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Will the outer chrome ring (if used)fall right in the middle of the outer stripe?would it be exceptable to move the stripe closer to the hub i.e. on the inside of the valve??chef-
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When the outter chrome trim ring is used the stripe is covered up.There is not much room for a stripe on the rim and if seen there where you mentioned would be considered incorrect.
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When the outter chrome trim ring is used the stripe is covered up.There is not much room for a stripe on the rim and if seen there where you mentioned would be considered incorrect.
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Thanks ChevGene,as I thought,I did not have the lower stripe put on knowing I was using a trim ring,if I were ever to remove the ring for good the wheels would need repainting anyway,chef- p.s. the two silver stripes around the cap sure look sweet!!!
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What is the thickeness of the 2 inside and the 1 outside pinstripes...If a trim ring is used would most if not all of the outer pinstripe be covered?Would the spare tire be striped as well?
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The thickness was only a few thousands . So sorry people, just had to poke a litte fun at my friend Bruce. Width on the other hand, is fairly wide. Best guess and what I have seen is 1/4" + or -. Spaced about 1/8" between. Get out your copy of Pictorial History. Pretty clear shots of the wheels. Don't know about trim rings. I think, yes on the spare. Daryl Scott, if yours are still original, could you stick a ruler up to the hubcap and take a picture showing the measurements. Thanks
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I was told two different stories about the outside stripe...It would be fully covered by the trim ring and the other was it was only parcially covered... I also think I remember being told the outside stripe was "thicker",whoops,wider then the inside stripes
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Thicker/Wider...Lets not "split hairs" here , we know what you mean...Wouldn't you have to repaint the rims again to get it right...Or do you think you can use rubbing compound....Might do the trick...I could look at mine, but don't know if '47 and '48 would be the same...Can always look at the one I have the trunk...
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Hey, Russell...I liked your old avatar better...Hope Ken's not listening...
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Ken do you have pin stripes on your wheels?What color?If so, is the outer one covered by the trim ring?What about you spare?
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What is the thickeness of the 2 inside and the 1 outside pinstripes...If a trim ring is used would most if not all of the outer pinstripe be covered?Would the spare tire be striped as well? Why would the spare not be the same as the other four? Any time it is on the ground, it needs to match the rest. I imagine they prepped all wheels the same way, not knowing which might end up being a spare.
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Sorry Bruce, can't help with wheel stripes. My wheels were painted long before they rolled into my possession. Wheel stripes have been on my "to do" list for some time now......just haven't gotten there yet. I believe the stripes should be argent silver for a black car.
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Hi Guys,
I'm stuck at work here until 7pm but I can measure my argent stripes when I get home. They're still the original ones as the rims (and car) haven't been painted and they're in good shape. Compared to a lot of restored cars I've seen, they're fatter than you'd think. There's the pair around the hubcap area and one band around the inner lip of the rim. I love little details like this, so I would think the trim rings would take away from those things.
My spare tire rim is plain black without any striping. I have seen a lot of restored spares with the argent stripes and they look nice...but guessing by what I see I don't think they came that way new. Maybe Gene knows for certain or others?
I'll measure up & take pictures tonight.
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Daryl,Thanks for you help in advance..It's was the spare i was realy concerned about because I never had it striped,don't remember why,looking foward to your pics,what color is your car?
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My observation from cars / wheels that I have seen, the spacing from the hubcap to the first stripe is about 1/8" then a space of about 1/8" to the second stripe. Yes, the spare should match the 4 on the ground. Can not answer the trim ring vs stripe question as I have the 15" wheels with the full wheel discs ( covers/ hubcaps ).
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My spare tire rim is plain black without any striping Oh boy, yet another mystery.
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Daryl,Thanks for you help in advance..It's was the spare i was realy concerned about because I never had it striped,don't remember why,looking foward to your pics,what color is your car? No problem. Our car is Mayland Black. I'll get a few pics and try to upload them tonight My spare tire rim is plain black without any striping Oh boy, yet another mystery. Yay, I'm "adding to the discussion".
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Some good info..Note Gene statement about the ring covering the outer stripe
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Bruce, what the ****, dueling post? 8 years, really? Where did the other post go???????? I know I saw one, no, two. This one started 2005
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I have no stripes on the four road wheels of my '39 as it has full wheel covers that would hide the stripe. The spare has the original paint and stripe and is in almost mint condition.
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Here's what I have on mine, which after looking at these I wonder if they weren't 'touched up' at some point over its 27 years of service (car was stored in 1974-2010). My measurements are 1/2 inch stripes with 1/8 separation in between the two in the center. They look wider than most, so I'm wondering if they have been redone at some point. And the spare that I said was just black? Well...I think I see stripes under a recoat or maybe just faded. I may get a little 2000 grit paper and see what I can find tomorrow morning when I work on it. You can make out the outline, right?
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The stripes do look a bit wide compared to measurments I have made and books I have reveiwed,I think 3/16 is the recomented width..The spacing looks perfect
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Yeah, I thought they were smaller...so I'm guessing someone touched these up a long time ago. I'll see if I can uncover the ones on the spare tire later today and get back in touch.
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Russell sorry,I did not know how to pin this to the first thread....Too much good info to leave it out...The only real question I had resently was the need for pinstriping on the spare
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Well I sanded a little of the top coat of black off of my spare tire rim today and came up with the same stripes as the others. Who's to say what that means, they may have been redone...
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My measurements are 1/2 inch stripes Are you saying that it is 1/2" from outside of one to the outside of the other? 1/2" total.
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Russell: Each stripe on my wheel is 1/2" in width, with 1/8" gap in between stripes. I'm pretty sure I was accurate, but keep in mind I was a C+ math student and I did remodel my house...and none of my walls are straight now. :)
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This thread is starting to show it's age, I just celebrated my 76th birthday month before last.....(I do remember that!) Come to think of it, I don't remember much at all! It couldn't be because I celebrated my 68th B.D day before yesterday...could it?
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It seems that I've seen a tool sold at Hershey that held a brush and would rotate 360 degrees for painting the wheel stripes. Are they still around. Unlike Gene on this one, I'd still like to have the stripes on even if an accessory covers them. Plus, anyone can see around the accessory to where the edge of the outer stripe where it crosses the valve stem opening. Or not, depending whether it is there or not. If for show, points off. Charlie
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Charlie the tool is a Bugler available from Eastwood co.I agree with you on the stripe under the ring
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I agree with Charlie. When I had my Fleetline judged at a VCCA 15 years ago the judge looked at my wheels to see if my outer stripe was hidden under my stainless trim ring. He could just see the edge of it and was satisfied so no deduction. Maybe the criteria for that has changed by now but if your serious about going for high scores on the judging sheet, I would check with someone who is a judge at the national VCCA meets.
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Bruce and Russell (and all other participants of this thread), I saw your earlier comments about pinning one thread to the other and about "dueling posts". I also thought both posts should be kept together. I conferred with Bill Barker as to which way to combine them. I used our MERGE function...my intent was to tack the "48 fleetline wheel pinstriping" thread to the end of the "Wheel pin striping" thread. Well, that didn't happen as intended. It attached page 1 to page 1, page 2 to page 2, etc. so that the thread pages alternate. Kinda mixes the posts up a little bit, but all the information is still here. Good idea ......bad results !!! One demerit for this Moderator trying to do something good and messing it up. Sorry guys
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Sorry about the results Ken (and ruscar... and XLVIIdriver... and MrMack... and everyone else!). In the past 11 years, I think I've only merged 2 different threads.. Couldn't remember exactly how it merged... and the documentation is non-existent.
So, it appears that the merge was similar to shuffling playing cards... and that isn't good for logical reasons.
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