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just can't fine the right fabric,I've tried all the big vendors and the stripes are right but the feilf color is too gray...Help Numbers are 1007-69...153,chef
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Can anyone help on this issue,thanks...p.s.that is SEAT fabric
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Howdy,
I'm not long on experience here but i assume you've tried the obvious; Hampton Coach: chevsofthe40s: Front of Catalog has Paint, Trim & Uph. numbers, w/names. Filling Station: G&D: for advertisers who sell upholstery materials Pauls 41 Chevy web site: Want ads, & some suppliers listed. Q&A is avail. Hemmings Motor News: Check for ads
Not sure all of these co's/web sites sell uph/seat material, but possibly they can lead you to a company that does.
Best of luck, Michael14
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Hey Bruce, I've always had great results dealing with SMS Upholstery in Canby, OR. Doug Pollock and his crew have 1000's and 1000's of rolls of original material. I suggest you give them a try. Bill.
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Bill,SMS sent me the same sample as HC did. All the info I have gotten points to that fabric,I guess I will quit second guessing it and take the leap,thanks guys
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Bruce, I'm not quite clear on what you're saying. But it sounds like you're not completely satisfied. Like maybe you're not 100% sure you're getting the correct material. If you want, send me a PM with your phone number and I'll give you a call. Tonight or whenever you have time....
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Hey Chef, I don't know if you ordered your stuff yet, but I saw an ad in Hemmings Classic Car today and thought of you. Maybe you've already tried them, but here it is..... Automotive Interiors 800-880-9118 www.automotiveinteriors.comI don't know anything about them or where they are located but the ad states they have seat cover upholstery kits and seat rebuild kits. Also states they have patterns from the late 30s to present. Might be worth a phone call ifyou haven't already got something. Good luck Bruce.
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No Ken 48 their not even close .Most their stuff is custom,I will keep trying,Thanks for your efforts
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Could we revisit finding the tan fabric for the 48 fleetline??chef
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Bruce it sounds like you are really having a tough time with the seat fabric for your 48 Aero. We've talked about this before and I don't know where else to go either. It sounds like you have fabric samples from a couple of suppliers. I think I still have a small sample from Hampton Coach from about 1995 or 1996 when the kit was bought for my 48 Fleetline. I would be happy to mail it to you for comparison to what they are sending to you now if you would like. Sometimes the little samples are misleading in appearance even though they might be correct.
Let me know and I'll mail it along with some interior photos of my 48 with the fabric installed.
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Gallo,Ive been out of pocket for some time and just saw this.So are the pics the SMS fabric???If so when did you purchase it and would you happen to have the product # for it???thanks,chef
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JYD,I have already gotten samples for the 48 fleetline from them and the seat fabric is the same as Hampton Coach,which is almost gray,not tan as it should be...I have the original cloth from the rear arm rests....The pics above are much closer then the samples I have been sent,chef
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Ive sent for more samples,thanks
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From the pictures it looks like a short nap mohair which would be correct for a Fleetmaster. The Fleetline had a flat cloth (no nap).
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ChevNut have you seen the seat fabric for the 48 fleetline from Hampton Coach or a gray tone fabric in the fleetline before??The stripes on the fabric from HC are perfect,I even tried to dye it to get the tan color...I see what you mean about the posted pics although the color looks close
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I will add there are no evident colored stripes in the fabric pictured here,just the 2 tones
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Hi Chef..........it's been awhile!!
It's a little too late right now, but tomorrow I will take a couple of pictures of the Hampton Coach interior seat fabric in my 48 Fleetline and post them here. The interior was done in 1995 or 1996 so the stuff they offer now might be different. The important thing is my fabric does NOT look like what is pictured in the above post. I'm sure Gene has it right (as usual) in that the pictured fabric is for a Fleetmaster, not a Fleetline. Or maybe my stuff is not correct? Let's look tomorrow after I post some pictures.
Good to see you back Chef.
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Well Ken 48,it sure looks a lot less grey then the small samples I have.I dought if they've changed over the years.I think the 1st samples i got was in the early 90's...It sure looks good after all these years..Do you have pics of the head liner also?the 2 fabrics do not match very well together?chef
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Chef,
I'll get a shot of the headliner later on and post it. Gotta go pick up my grand daughter for a parade. By the way....my headliner is kind of a dark brown and doesn't match the seat fabric at all.
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When you get the samples there is a few headliners to choose from.I have some of the original fabric which matches one of the samples but the gray in the sample seat clothe does not work well at all.chef
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Well......here are a few shots of the headliner in my 48... The thing Idon't like about my headliner is that it is so much darker than the sunvisors. And you are right, the headliner and seat fabric just don't seem to go together. Maybe Chev Nut will take a look and tell us if it is correct?? Good Luck in your search for the "right stuff". Hope this has helped.
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On my screen the visors look to be more the correct color. There may have been a choice of headlining colors back then and the too dark version was selected. The seats probably are a little too gray which makes the headlining look more brown. Its just impossible to match all the colors and materials..
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Thanks Gene for the opinion, I appreciate it. If I just look at the seat fabric without the headliner in the background, it looks tan; but put it against that headliner and it turns gray. By golly.....it must be magic, or gremlins...or somethin'. But it can make ya crazy sometimes. I just enjoy it the way it is......and most people that look at it don't remember or don't know the difference. One of these days, maybe I'll get the visors recovered in a color closer to that of the headliner so the contrast in colors isn't so great. Maybe. Thanks again Gene, and again good luck to you Chef Chevy, I hope you can find the "right stuff".
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I Guess you all can see what I mean now about the gray in the fabric Ken 48 and Chev Gene send me a PM,I would like to send you guys some samples of the original fabric from my Fleetline...Ken 48,nice to see you left the underside of your sun sheild the correct green...I failed to do the same..I bad,chef
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Hey Chef, I sent you a PM on the fabric color. Fixing the color on the underside of the sun shield can be easy. When I got mine the previous owner painted the topside black to match the car, but left the original medium green underneath. It was in pretty bad shape, scratches, scuffs and many dirt stains I couldn't get out. One day I was in our local hardware store and happened to see a rattle can of Rustoleum paint with a cap color that just said "Take me home and paint the underside of your visor, I'm a perfect match." So I did and that is what you see in the picture. It was Rustoleum American Accents Moss Green,satin finish. Noboby, including Fulton, could make a better match. So take that visor off the car Chef, get a can of Moss Green and go for it!! Sometime you just get lucky, huh?
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I will be looking for that paint,thanks,chef
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Hello, Been reading the thread and have a couple questions. Coincidentally I looked at a 48 Fleetline the other day that still has it's orig interior. I made a point of taking a close look at the seat fabric. It was faded but definitely had a blue and brown stripe like the picture from ken48. Didn't take notice if it had a nap or was smooth. The headliner was too faded and stained to say what color that was originally. Relating to a comment Chevgene made; was the seat fabric the same in the Fleetmaster & Fleetline as far as color and stripe with the only difference being the nap? Wasn't there a grey combination offered in the Fleetline in addition to the tan?
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Hi KenK, Welcome to the "Is it gray or tan debate" . Here's what I found on page 24 of the Chevrolet 1948 Specifications-Passenger booklet I got from GM. Under Upholstery Materials: Seat and back cushion front and rear....FLEETLINE:Light tan;color-striped, broadcloth type, flat woven fabric. No options. FLEETMASTER sedans and coupes: Tan striped, pile fabric, Tan cloth optional. See option RPO 355. The only gray I see is in the Stylemaster sedans and coupes. Headlining in both FLEETLINE and FLEETMASTER reads as follows: Plain tan cloth to match seat upholstery. So there ya go......that's the best I can do......I was only 6 years old when the 48s were new.....and probably not paying much attention to seat covers and headliners at the time Maybe Gene will come on and expand on this a little more. Enjoy the Chevy
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The 1948 Engineering Manual describes the 1948 Fleetline material quite correctly "A much lighter tan tone forms the background in the 1948 Fleetline interiors. The flat wovenseat upholstery introduces rich slate blue and brown colors in closley spaced pin stripes - a material simialr to that used in much costlier cars. In the Fleetline interiors, the background color is now the same overall, the dark colored scuff pads have been replaced by light tan"
"Fleetmaster Interiors" A new, high quality pile fabric, known as "Sea weave" covers seats in the Fleetmaster series. The design of the pile of the seat clothe is bolder than previously. .......An optional cloth upholstery is again offered. The novelty weave seat material is highlighted in light tan"..... I have never seen a 1948 Fleetmaster with the optional interior. This includes back in 1950 when they were a popular used car. The 1941-1947 Fleetlines used dark brown tones material with slight stripes in the seat cushion and back rest material. I always thought they were more rich looking than the tan tones used in 1948. The tan tones probably were more modern though. Its also rather difficult to see and describe a light tan and grey on a computer screen. In my opinion the 1948 Fleetmaster would best be described as a tan/gray.
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The head liner in ken 48s interior matches my original very well...when i put a sample of the seat fabric which i took off the underside of the rear arm rest up to the hampton coach sample it is not too far off...if you were to use the pannel fabric for the head liner the seats would match every thing pretty well,i dont understand why the headliner is so different then all the other tone.must of been the era..chef
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Chef, Would just like some clarification. Is the sample you took off the underside of the rear arm rest the original 1948 fabric? If so is it smooth or does it have a nap to it? Also, when I earlier asked about a grey combination, in addition to tan, available in the Fleetline I should have specified I was referring to 42-46 model years. I see these colors listed in the specification section of Chevs of the 40's catalog. I recently requested samples from SMS. They sent both a tan and grey striped fabric. The stripe pattern is different between the two. Just a thought on my part but considering shades of blue and grey were offered in 48 I'm surprised a grey combo wasn't offered to harmonize better with those exterior colors. But, on the other hand, I guess cost being a factor in production isn't anything new. Ken
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The 48 fleetline fabric is smooth,I have seen a few pics of the slightly gray tone striped seat fabric...When I send for samples I give the trim code so I pretty sure they are sending what they think is the correct stuff for the car
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OK Chef......here are a few photos of my HC seat fabric with the samples from HC and your original fabric sample you sent me......... Well there you are.......pretty close but no cigar for HC. I gotta tell ya Chef, when the sun shines strong on my seats, they look tan, but when you look at them against the headliner....gray. Unfortunately, that's the best we can do these days. Like I said....close but no cigar. Trust me, I won't tell anyone it ain't EXACT. Let me know if I can help any more. No I won't contribute to the "Bruce's Interior" fund Just so everyone knows....in 1996 the entire HC interior kitfor a 48 Fleetline Aerosedan cost $1215.01......Chef might tell what it costs today
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In 6/01 the HC interior kit including truck was $2651. and in June of 08 the same is $4560.You would wonder why I,m looking for perfection...Yes after all that $$$$ I would need an expert to put it in.I would guess an easy $2000..I'm going to have to sell alot of Salmon to pay off this project...Comment???chef
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As long as "we" keep buying, they'll keep on raising the price.
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Wow! I hadn't priced a kit. That's a lot of bacon. There are some who believe SMS is the way to go for correctness of material but one has to consider they just sell yardage. Then you have to add burlap, padding, etc and find an upholstery professional to do the work. I wonder which way would be less. I saw some recent posts here that were saying around $3,000 for a complete interior which I thought wasn't completely outrageous all things considered. Unfortunately the antique car hobby isn't a poor man's hobby. Ken
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The seat fabric SMS offers as correct for the 48 Fleetline Aero is the same fabric Hampton Coach will send you...Except for the seat fabric all the other interior components as for color from HC match my original exactly...the biggest problem,with out the little extra tan in the seat the other fabrics especially the headliner are a bit off,chef
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Well if they can get the color correct for all the other interior coverings why not the seat fabric? Too bad.
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I sent HC the the sample of the original seat as you see in Ken 48 pics and they were not interested and said they had nothing to match it with.Must be Like Bill Hirsh and the engine color,they have a lot of the not just right color.chef
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There ya go Chef......close but no cigar for Hampton Coach.....they've got a product that isn't quite right, but it's the best you can get and they will stick it to ya....just like Bill Hirsh did for years with his paint (I bought his engine paint before I knew any better). But after years of complaining by VCCA members, I think Bill Hirsh now offers a correct color engine paint. Too bad another company doesn't put out a kit like HC in the correct patterns, colors, etc.....then Chevy guys (VCCA members) could stick it back to HC.. I guess you just gotta put up with the BS sometimes. Anyway Chef, I hope my photos were helpful to you (it was fun helping out) and I wish you the best of luck with your 48 Aero. Now, go peddle some salmon or shrimp or something so you can pay for that interior.
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